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Re: Last Call: draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec (Certified Electronic Mail) to Proposed Standard

2009-10-22 18:08:41
At 12:57 13-10-2009, The IESG wrote:
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:

- 'Certified Electronic Mail '
   <draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05.txt> as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to the

There has been several messages posted to this mailing list asking for the Last-Call to be withdrawn together with comments [1] suggesting that the proposal is not ready for a Last-Call. Quoting Alfred Hones [2]:

  "draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec contains so many violations of
   existing standards and tries to establish extensions in ways
   explicitly not foreseen in the Internet email standards that
   it actually should not appear on the IETF stream *at all*."

I posted some comments about this draft previously [3]. I have not seen any reply from the authors of draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05 or from any member of the IESG. This draft has normative references to RFC 5321 and RFC 5322. "Normative references specify documents that must be read to understand or implement the technology in the new RFC, or whose technology must be present for the technology in the new RFC to work". I have reason to believe that John Klensin has read RFC 5321 before asking [4] that this draft be withdrawn immediately or Real Soon Now to avoid wasted effort.

According to the write-up, there are no concerns about depth or breadth of the reviews and there is no need for wider review. There were concerns about the specification which could not be addressed because the changes would make the document incompatible with a national standard. Such issues won't be flagged by a checklist.

Item 1.f mentions that there has been no threat of appeal. Sam Hartman [5] already mentioned BCP 61. The question asked by Simon Josefsson [6] may be covered by BCP 18. There are also some sections of RFC 2026 that may be relevant to the question of withdrawing the Last-Call.

Could the IESG please withdraw the Last-Call for draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05?

Regards,
-sm

1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59045.html
2. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59058.html
3. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59048.html
4. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59049.html
5. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59055.html
6. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg59051.html
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