Re: [77all] No Host for IETF 77

On 3/23/2010 10:20 AM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com> 
> wrote:
>
> > The corporate name on my nametag is there only because I filled that field
> > in the registration form. Others haven't and don't have a corporation name.
When a corporation sends a representative to the IETF and their business
is network or network impacted anything then that party is deriving
benefit from the participation of that representative.

So in the interest of disclosure ALL of the members of the IETF have the
right to know who is paying for everyone elses participation. Work for
Hire law makes their actions 'on behalf of the sponsor' no matter what
pretty much and as such there is a legal and ethical responsibility to
disclose that information fully IMHO.


Todd

> > Besides, the corporation name is there not because Check Point has "bought"
> > the IETF, but so that if I say that everyone should use a firewall, people
> > will take that with the appropriate grain of salt.

> >
> Affiliations are normally listed on IETF documents and badges for the
> purpose of assisting in identifying the person so affiliated.
>
> Donald
>
>
> > Anyway, if we're raising money for the IETF, someone should have made IETF
> > 77 T-shirts for sale. They last longer than green dots, and give you
> > bragging rights.
> >
> > On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:12 PM, DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTLABS) wrote:
> >
> > > Guess you are not that street smart, look at the corporation names on
> > > the name tags... IETF is bought....
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
> > > Dave CROCKER
> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:19 PM
> > > To: Thomson, Martin
> > > Cc: IETF Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [77all] No Host for IETF 77
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/22/2010 5:59 PM, Thomson, Martin wrote:
> > > > "This working group brought to you by<Dave Crocker>"
> > > >
> > > > Just after note well.
> > >
> > > Right, but some working groups will have multiple offers for
> > > sponsorship.
> > >
> > > Should there be a premium charge for the more popular working groups?
> > >
> > > There also might be some spoofing, where someone pays to have /you/
> > > listed as
> > > sponsor of the wg.  That leads to the possibility of your paying for a
> > > de-listing...
> > >
> > > d/
> > > --
> > >
> > >   Dave Crocker
> > >   Brandenburg InternetWorking
> > >   bbiw.net
>
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