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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt> (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-31 08:51:33
On 1/31/11 12:23 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
On 2011-1-30, at 17:12, Paul Hoffman wrote:
The above emphatic statements means that IANA can reject a request for an 
IETF-approved protocol that needs two ports without recourse.

I don't follow. Assignments through IETF-stream documents do not go
through expert review.

Then this should be made *much* clearer in the document. In fact, the document says:

   A key element of the procedural streamlining specified in this
   document is to establish identical assignment procedures for all IETF
   transport protocols.

I assumed that "all" meant "all", not "all except those through IETF-stream documents"; others might have read it the same way I did. Further, the wording throughout the template description in 8.1 makes it sound like that the restrictions in this document apply to everything that needs a template, which clearly includes IETF-stream documents.

And I've never witnessed IANA rejecting requests coming through the
IETF.

This document is about new restrictions for the future, not what has happened in the past.

But even if they did, there is an appeals procedure.

That is slim comfort to a WG that has designed a protocol that has good design reasons for needing two ports and, at the last minute is told that they either have to re-design from scratch or go through an appeals process to justify their design to IANA. It's fine that they have to justify it to the IESG (well, fine to me; other greybeards seem to not like that so much these days), but there should be no way that IANA can say "you cannot get ports assigned because this new RFC says that you designed your protocol wrong". If what you say above about "Assignments through IETF-stream documents do not go through expert review." is true, it should be plainly stated in the introduction to the document.
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