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RE: [mpls] FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 09:04:27
Rui,

Excellent point, I fully agree, we need to focus on the 99% that is 
identical and not cause the 1% that is different (for good reasons) to 
cause a rift that will drive further divergence.

Regards,

Malcolm



Rui Costa <RCosta(_at_)ptinovacao(_dot_)pt> 
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Sometimes when two worlds come together, you don't get common standards 
right away. For the SONET/SDH example, it has been pointed out that 
starting from digital voice, we had different regions of the world 
choosing A-law or mu-law encoding, then 24-channel vs 30-channel PDH 
hierarchies. SONET and SDH evolved originally as optimized transport for 
the 24-channel and 30-channel hierarchies, but we were able to push them 
into common physical layer interfaces for the various bit-rates, and today 
what we call SDH is really a superset of the two multiplexing hierarchies, 
so the same box can be sold anywhere in the world and can be configured to 
support the hierarchy of the local network. When "data friendly" features 
were added to SONET/SDH (VCAT, GFP, LCAS), these were defined once and not 
in multiple regional variants. When we finally reached OTN, we were able 
to agree to develop a single, global standard from the start. 

For MPLS-TP, we have the coming together of the transport world with the 
Internet world. We have succeeded in driving together many aspects of this 
technology, but we shouldn't be too surprised that we can't get down to 
one variant in the very first try at bringing these together. 

Regards, 
Rui

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mpls-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of 
Adrian Farrel
Sent: segunda-feira, 26 de Setembro de 2011 22:58
To: mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: [mpls] FW: Last Call: 
<draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for 
Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

MPLS Working Group,

Please be aware of the IETF last call as shown below. The document was 
presented
for publication as an individual RFC with IETF consensus and AD 
sponsorship.

This draft is clearly close and relevant to the work you do, but after
discussing with the chairs I came to the conclusion that it does not 
comment on
the technical or process decisions of the MPLS working groups, and it does 
not
attempt to make any technical evaluations or definitions within the scope 
of the
MPLS working group. It is more of a philosophical analysis of the way the 
IETF
approaches the "two solutions" problem with special reference to MPLS-TP 
OAM.

Thus, I am accepting the document as AD Sponsored rather than running it 
through
the MPLS working group. My reasoning is that the working group has got 
plenty to
do working on technical issues without being diverted into wider IETF
philosophy.

As an AD Sponsored I-D it is subject to a four week IETF last call. That 
is
plenty of opportunity for everyone to comment and express their views. 
Please
send your comments to the IETF mailing list as described below, or (in
exceptional circumstances) direct to the IESG.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Subject: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> 
(The
Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to 
Informational RFC


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM'
  <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> as an Informational
RFC

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Abstract

   The MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is a profile of MPLS technology
   for use in transport network deployments. That is, MPLS-TP is a set
   of functions and features selected from the wider MPLS toolset and
   applied in a consistent way to meet the needs and requirements of
   operators of packet transport networks.

   During the process of development of the profile, additions to the
   MPLS toolset have been made to ensure that the tools available met
   the requirements. These additions were motivated by MPLS-TP, but form
   part of the wider MPLS toolset such that any of them could be used in
   any MPLS deployment.

   One major set of additions provides enhanced support for Operations,
   Administration, and Maintenance (OAM). This enables fault management
   and performance monitoring to the level needed in a transport
   network. Many solutions and protocol extensions have been proposed to
   address these OAM requirements, and this document sets out the
   reasons for selecting a single, coherent set of solutions for
   standardization.


The file can be obtained via

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations/

IESG discussion can be tracked via

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations/


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