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Re: TICC restrictions on food/beverage

2011-10-28 08:00:06


--On Thursday, October 27, 2011 22:06 -0500 Pete Resnick
<presnick(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com> wrote:

It didn't take long to find this on the TICC website:

http://www.ticc.com.tw/content/Download/DownloadFile.aspx?id=1
02

It is a PDF with a creation date of Sep. 27, 2005 containing
the "Convention & Exhibition Manual for TICC,TAITRA". The
rules mentioned in the announcement are easily locatable in
that file, so I very much doubt that the issue of "change
without consent" is at issue here. Whether these rules were
known to the Secretariat/IAD at contracting time is, of
course, a separate question.

Pete, for me, a small variation on the latter is the _only_
issue.  I think the community has the right to expect that the
meeting site selection process _will_ know and will inform us on
a timely basis.  If they knew about this issue didn't consider
it important enough to tell us, then why tell us now?    

Looking at it a different way, if that document was incorporated
by reference into the contract, then I suggest it was their
obligation to either read it and understand its implications or
to tell us that there are some restrictions in the facility of
which we should be aware and that we had each better go read the
document and understand/ accept its implications.  By contrast,
if the contract has a "nothing else counts" clause and the
document was not explicitly incorporated, then the document
doesn't count and we shouldn't be hearing about now (or ever).

This might be considered just an oversight were it not for the
number of controversies we've had on the IETF list about the
availability of food and beverages for specific types of diets
and needs.

I guess I'd like to know when the IAD/Secretariat/IAOC knew, why
we are being told only now, and whether the document you cite is
part of the contract or excluded from it.  But perhaps, using
the position some IAOC members have taken vis-a-vis the remote
participation requirements RFP, they have decided that, since
BCP 101 doesn't explicitly say that we are entitled to know all
non-financial aspects of contracts and they don't think it is
important, we shouldn't get answers to such questions because we
have no right to know.

    john

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