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Re: Last Call: <draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt> (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

2012-06-08 14:47:00

On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote:

On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

On May 30, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:

   • It's probably worth adding a word or two about the fact that the ISOC 
Board is the final appellate avenue in the standardization process.  In 
this way it may also make sense to move Section 3.2.1 further back behind 
the IAB.

I have heard that as well, but cannot find it in RFC 2026 or any of the 
RFCs that update 2026 (3667 3668 3932 3978 3979 5378 5657 5742 6410). It 
should only be in the Tao if we can point to where the rule comes from.


see RFC 2026 section 6.5.3

6.5.3 Questions of Applicable Procedure

 Further recourse is available only in cases in which the procedures
 themselves (i.e., the procedures described in this document) are
 claimed to be inadequate or insufficient to the protection of the
 rights of all parties in a fair and open Internet Standards Process.
 Claims on this basis may be made to the Internet Society Board of
 Trustees.  The President of the Internet Society shall acknowledge
 such an appeal within two weeks, and shall at the time of
 acknowledgment advise the petitioner of the expected duration of the
 Trustees' review of the appeal.  The Trustees shall review the
 situation in a manner of its own choosing and report to the IETF on
 the outcome of its review.

 The Trustees' decision upon completion of their review shall be final
 with respect to all aspects of the dispute.

note that the appeal to the ISOC BopT is only if the claim is that the rules 
are broken 
not the application of the rules

Exactly right. What Eliot said, and others have said, is that the ISOC board 
is the "final appellate avenue in the standardization process". That's quite 
different than "the rules are broken".

just to be clear - saying "final appellate avenue in the standardization 
process". could be read as meaning
that a appeal of a technical decision could be made to the ISOC Board and that 
is not the case - 
this is why I used different language

not sure which you were supporting

Scott


there has never been such an appeal


Happily noted.

--Paul Hoffman



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