On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk(_at_)cnnic(_dot_)cn> wrote:
I have taken a look at this policy. but still not very clear about this
policy.
could you kindly show some examples for charging the fee?
I looked at this before the policy was created.
Many internet companies do this.
Yahoo :
http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/yahoo-spy.pdf
• Basic subscriber records: approx. $20 for the first ID, $10 per ID
thereafter
• Basic Group Information (including information about moderators):
approx. $20 for a group with a single moderator
• Contents of subscriber accounts, including email: approx. $30-$40
per user • Contents of Groups: approx. $40 - $80 per group
Verizon :
http://www.verizon.net/policies/civil_subpoena.asp
Verizon Online charges the following rates for compliance with civil
subpoenas and other legal process. For subpoenas and other legal
process that require substantial effort by Verizon Online, Verizon
Online reserves the right to charge a rate of $75 per hour (plus
overtime costs if necessary) and to collect an estimated fee in
advance. Except as set forth in the preceding sentence, Verizon
Online's subpoena compliance fees and charges are as follows:
$40.00 per IP record requested (unless overtime charges apply)
$22.00 per Federal Express or actual shipping charges if higher
$0.25 cents per copy
Sprint
http://info.publicintelligence.net/SprintSubpoenaManual.pdf
Lots of different fees. Minimum $50.00 administrative processing fee
for Civil requests.
AT&T
https://contact.bellsouth.com/subpoena/
Fees for Subpoena Processing: AT&T charges a fee for the processing of
civil subpoenas.
I do not think that the fees suggested here are at all out of line
with either the actual burden or with what other organizations do.
Regards
Marshall
Jiankang Yao
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Subject: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy
The IAOC is seeking community feedback on a proposed policy by the IAOC to
impose
fees to produce information and authenticate documents in response to
subpoenas and
other legal requests.
The IETF receives requests for information, documentation, authentication or
other
matters through subpoenas and less formal means that require manpower and
materials
to be expended. These requests are on the rise. During the period 2005 to
2010 the IETF
responded to nine subpoenas. Since 2011 the IETF has received five
subpoenas and three
other legal requests for authenticated documents.
Each such request is time sensitive and involves the IETF Counsel, the IAD,
and members
of the IAOC, who together form the Legal Management Committee, to rapidly
analyze and
identify the means for satisfying the request. Often there is a need to
retain outside counsel,
especially in cases that might lead to depositions or court testimony.
The IAOC believes a Schedule of Fees is an appropriate and reasonable means
to recover
costs associated with such efforts.
The draft policy entitled Draft Fee Policy for Legal Requests can be found
at: <http://iaoc.ietf.org/policyandprocedures.html>
Before adopting a policy the IAOC would like feedback on this before making
a
decision. Comments appreciated to ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org by 6 August 2012.
Ray Pelletier
IETF Administrative Director