On 10/4/2012 9:23 PM, Stephen Hanna wrote:
IETF Secretariat wrote:
An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled
"PT-TLS: A TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) Protocol"
(draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat
on 2012-10-04
Well, that's a pain in the neck!
Actually its much more than that. Its why full disclosure at the start
of a process of who the parties legally represent and what their
interests in the standard process are so that full disclosure is there.
But fixing this process is actually VERY SIMPLE... Just a 'component of
an updated BCP which contractually commits that IETF members and their
sponsors may not engage in submarining' its actually pretty simple to
stop this... you folks just have to want to.
The propose text could look something like:
" Whereas - all parties working in the IETF have an open
collaboration agreement, it is agreed that any Intellectual Properties
developed by a commercial sponsor to the IETF will have full disclosure
of their licensing provisions prior to any development taking place in
the IETF and that those rights must be properly disclosed to all parties
in the interest of open collaboration and global standards development."
"Further any party formally participating or supplying IP to these
initiative waves any rights to change those access rights and disclosure
requirements by participating in the process after the development
commences on any initiative".
Todd
I'm not happy to see these
IPR disclosures come in so late in the process. PT-TLS is
already with the IESG and PT-EAP has passed two WGLCs and
is almost ready to go to the IESG. This IPR should have
been disclosed much earlier, if at all possible.
At this time, I would encourage nea participants to read
(or re-read) RFC 3979, which describes how we handle IPR
disclosures in IETF. Also read the IPR disclosures to see
what's included in the patents in question and what IPR
licensing terms are being offered.
I would ask Cisco to please provide a link to the actual
patent application (since I guess there is no patent yet
and I can't find the patent application) so that we can
see what technology is claimed to be covered.
Thanks,
Steve
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Subject: [Nea] IPR Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to
draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-07
Dear Paul Sangster, Nancy Cam-Winget, Joseph A. Salowey:
An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "PT-
TLS: A TCP-
based Posture Transport (PT) Protocol" (draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls) was
submitted to
the IETF Secretariat on 2012-10-04 and has been posted on the "IETF
Page of
Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1890/). The title of the IPR
disclosure is
"Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-07."");
The IETF Secretariat
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