----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Farrel" <afarrel(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net>
To: "'t.p.'" <daedulus(_at_)btconnect(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 5:43 PM
Hello Tom.
Charter text is distinct from milestones.
The charter is discussed by IESG and put out for community review.
Milestones are set by the chairs in discussion with their AD.
The process for handling the updates is also different.
The BFD chairs agreed with me that they would update the milestones
once the new
charter text was posted, so I hope we'll see that "soon".
Understood, but be aware of the impact it has, at least on me. I was
glad to see that one item, which I expect to engage with, was still in
the Charter and then looked below to see when I might want to set aside
time for it, only to see all those dates in the past, reminiscent of all
those failed project plans that I have seen over the years. If the
dates are not updated, then I would think it a better process to send
out just the updated Charter, without any dates.
Tom Petch
Cheers,
Adrian
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf
Of t.p.
Sent: 01 November 2012 09:28
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: WG Action: Rechartered Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (bfd)
I realise that the timekeeping of the IETF is not on a par with its
engineering, but it seems a shame to promulgate a new charter for
which
every milestone is already several months in arrears.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
To: "IETF-Announce" <ietf-announce(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Cc: "bfd WG" <rtg-bfd(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:46 PM
The Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd) working group in the
Routing
Area of the IETF has been rechartered. For additional information
please
contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs.
Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd)
------------------------------------------------
Current Status: Active Working Group
Chairs:
David Ward <dward(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Jeffrey Haas <jhaas(_at_)pfrc(_dot_)org>
Technical advisors:
Dave Katz <dkatz(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net>
Assigned Area Director:
Adrian Farrel <adrian(_at_)olddog(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk>
Mailing list
Address: rtg-bfd(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
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Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtg-bfd/
Charter of Working Group:
The BFD Working Group is chartered to standardize and support the
bidirectional forwarding detection protocol (BFD) and its
extensions.
A
core goal of the working group is to standardize BFD in the
context of
IP
routing, or protocols such as MPLS that are based on IP routing,
in a
way
that will encourage multiple, inter-operable vendor
implementations.
The
Working Group will also provide advice and guidance on BFD to
other
working groups or standards bodies as requested.
BFD is a protocol intended to detect faults in the bidirectional
path
between two forwarding engines, including physical interfaces,
subinterfaces, data link(s), and to the extent possible the
forwarding
engines themselves, with potentially very low latency. It operates
independently of media, data protocols, and routing protocols. An
additional goal is to provide a single mechanism that can be used
for
liveness detection over any media, at any protocol layer, with
a wide range of detection times and overhead, to avoid a
proliferation
of different methods.
Important characteristics of BFD include:
- Simple, fixed-field encoding to facilitate implementations in
hardware.
- Independence of the data protocol being forwarded between two
systems.
BFD packets are carried as the payload of whatever encapsulating
protocol is appropriate for the medium and network.
- Path independence: BFD can provide failure detection on any kind
of
path between systems, including direct physical links, virtual
circuits,
tunnels, MPLS LSPs, multihop routed paths, and unidirectional
links
(so
long as there is some return path, of course).
- Ability to be bootstrapped by any other protocol that
automatically
forms peer, neighbor or adjacency relationships to seed BFD
endpoint
discovery.
The working group is chartered to complete the following work
items:
1. Develop the MIB module for BFD and submit it to the IESG for
publication as a Proposed Standard.
2a. Provide a generic keying-based cryptographic authentication
mechanism
for the BFD protocol in discussion with the KARP working group.
This
mechanism will support authentication through a key identifier for
the
BFD
session's Security Association rather than specifying new
authentication
extensions.
2b. Provide extensions to the BFD MIB in support of the generic
keying-based cryptographic authentication mechanism.
2c. Specify cryptographic authentication procedures for the BFD
protocol
using HMAC-SHA-256 (possibly truncated to a smaller integrity
check
value) using the generic keying-based cryptographic authentication
mechanism.
3. Provide an extension to the BFD core protocol in support of
point-to-
multipoint links and networks.
4. Assist the MPLS working group in the standardization of the BFD
protocol for MPLS-TP. The preferred solution will be
interoperable
with the
current BFD specification.
5. Provide one or more mechanisms to run BFD over Link Aggregation
Group
Interfaces.
The working group will maintain a relationship with the KARP and
MPLS
working groups, and will communicate with the IEEE with respect to
BFD
over LAGs.
Milestones:
Done - Submit the base protocol specification to the IESG to
be
considered as a Proposed Standard
Done - Submit BFD encapsulation and usage profile for
single-hop
IPv4 and IPv6 adjacencies to the IESG to be considered as a
Proposed
Standard
Done - Submit BFD encapsulation and usage profile for MPLS
LSPs
to
the IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard
Done - Submit BFD encapsulation and usage profile for
multi-hop
IPv4 and IPv6 adjacencies to the IESG to be considered as a
Proposed
Standard
Sep 2011 - Submit the BFD MIB to the IESG to be considered as a
Proposed Standard
Dec 2011 - Submit the generic keying based cryptographic
authentication
mechanism to the IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard
Dec 2011 - Submit a BFD MIB extension in support of the generic
keying
document to the IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard
Dec 2011 - Submit the cryptographic authentication procedures
for
BFD
to the IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard
Mar 2012 - Submit the the document on BFD point-to-multipoint
support
to the IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard
Jun 2012 - Submit the bootstrapping mechanism for BFD using DHCP
to
the
IESG to be considered as a Proposed Standard