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Re: [pkix] Last Call: <draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15.txt> (X.509 Internet Public Key Infrastructure Online Certificate Status Protocol - OCSP) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-15 08:59:44

On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:37 PM, Stefan Santesson <stefan(_at_)aaa-sec(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

To put it simply. Given how OCSP is designed, the only way to allow "good"
to represent a white-list, is if "revoked" can be returned for everything
else.

I realize it's unfair of me to take this quote out of context.  Apologies, but 
I want to focus on it.

You've just said that there are only two valid responses from an OCSP server 
which has access to a white list.  In other words such a server inherently 
cannot provide any information about the actual revocation status of a cert, 
and its responses cannot distinguish between a lost/forged/whatever cert and a 
known-bad (actually revoked) cert.

The actual information which an OCSP responder might (should?) have would 
include both a white list and a black list.  An RP using OCSP to determine "the 
current status of a digital certificate without requiring CRLs" (as it says in 
the abstract) would hope to receive the available information about a subject 
cert.  In other words, after a successful query, it would hope to know if the 
subject cert was known-good, known-bad, or neither.

By combining the known-bad and neither responses, the RP must now use CRLs in 
order to distinguish those two cases.  

This situation would appear to contradict the first sentence in the abstract of 
the document.  Doesn't a change which requires a change in the abstract exceed 
the authorized scope of this revision to 2560?  If it doesn't then I think the 
abstract needs to be updated.

I don't understand why we're trying so hard to avoid providing both the 
white-list and the black-list information at the same time in OCSP responses.  

(Nit:  Since the Introduction repeats the Abstract, the reference to 5912 added 
to the Abstract should also be added to the Introduction.)
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