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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-14.txt> (Guidelines for Creating New DHCPv6 Options) to Best Current Practice

2013-10-08 16:39:07
On Oct 8, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) 
<fluffy(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> wrote:
Part of why you can't do this with DHCP is that clients are written so that 
when an IP address fails to work for an application connection, the 
application re does the DNS and gets the new address (assuming TTL had been 
moved down during the move). Applications can not tell the  OS to redo DHCP 
when they fail an application level connection. 

This use case is a good example of when to use an FQDN format for a DHCP 
option.   However, it's not a great example of when to use a DHCP 
option—configuring SIP servers with DHCP is generally a bad idea, because if 
your device is connected to a new network, it will blindly take the SIP server 
IP address or FQDN information from the DHCP server and use it, and that SIP 
server might well perform an MitM attack or the like.

So it's only in the very restricted use case of a Cisco IP phone permanently 
installed on a desktop and connected to a trusted network that (a) configuring 
SIP via DHCP makes sense, and (b) using the FQDN is a good idea.   Of course 
it's possible that my limited understanding of how SIP works is preventing me 
from seeing why it's safe to configure SIP service using DHCP, but I'm assuming 
that that's not the case in this argument; please feel free to correct me.

We've actually been having this same conversation on the iesg mailing list, and 
I asserted that SIP was something you ought not to configure with DHCP; your 
use case is the one case where it sort of makes sense.   Can you think of 
similar use cases where it actually makes sense to configure these parameters 
via DHCP?

Possibly the right solution is to update the document to talk about this sort 
of restricted use case as one where FQDNs actually do make sense.   The 
document certainly doesn't say you _can't_ use FQDNs, but we see people wanting 
to use them a lot in cases where they really don't make sense, hence the 
advice.   Historically I don't think we bothered to make this distinction when 
defining new DHCP options, but it seems like a useful distinction to make.


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