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RE: [OPSEC] Last Call: <draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-04.txt> (DHCPv6-Shield: Protecting Against Rogue DHCPv6 Servers) to Best Current Practice

2014-11-20 10:33:39
Minor suggestion aka nit:

pg. 1
This:
"Abstract

   This document specifies a mechanism for protecting hosts connected to
   a switched network against rogue DHCPv6 servers.  The aforementioned
   mechanism is based on DHCPv6 packet-filtering at the layer-2 device
   at which the packets are received.  The aforementioned mechanism has
   been widely deployed in IPv4 networks ('DHCP snooping'), and hence it
   is desirable that similar functionality be provided for IPv6
   networks.

Reads a bit better if it is this:

Abstract

   This document specifies a mechanism for protecting hosts connected to
   a switched network against rogue DHCPv6 servers.  This
   mechanism is based on DHCPv6 packet-filtering at the layer-2 device
   at which the packets are received.  This mechanism has
   been widely deployed in IPv4 networks ('DHCP snooping'), and hence it
   is desirable that similar functionality be provided for IPv6
   networks.

Ultimately it reads the same but is s a bit simpler swapping The aforementioned 
for this.

pg 3.
This "first fragment" generally called "original packet",  (rfc2460 section 
4.5) , description is a little weak.
"First Fragment:

      An IPv6 fragment with fragment offset equal to 0."

Maybe just refer to that rfc/section and call it original packet instead of 
trying to redefine and rename it here?
There are several instances of "initial fragment with offset of 0" that should 
probably be replaced with "original packet" and rfc reference.

pg 3.

IPv6 Header Chain:...

Seems mostly correct but again why restate what is described in rfc2460 section 
4?

pg 4.
I am not sure I understand this part.
"RATIONALE: DHCPv6-Shield implementations MUST NOT enforce a
          limit on the number of bytes they can inspect (starting from
          the beginning of the IPv6 packet), since this could introduce
          false-positives: legitimate packets could be dropped simply
          because the DHCPv6-Shield device does not parse the entire
          IPv6 header chain present in the packet.  An implementation
          that has such an implementation-specific limit MUST NOT claim
          compliance with this specification."

If an implementation didn't parse the whole packet and it does not see an dhcp 
msg header wouldn't it default to allow not drop? ( MUST drop if see dhcp , 
MUST allow if not?)

So wouldn't you be more likely to have false negatives because the whole header 
wasn't examined?

pg 5
" 3.  When parsing the IPv6 header chain, if the packet is identified
       to be a DHCPv6 packet meant for a DHCPv6 client or the packet
       contains an unrecognized Next Header value, DHCPv6-Shield MUST
       drop the packet, and SHOULD log the packet drop event in an
       implementation-specific manner as a security alert.
       DHCPv6-Shield MUST provide a configuration knob that controls
       whether packets with unrecognized Next Header values are dropped;
       this configuration knob MUST default to "drop".

          RATIONALE: [RFC7045] requires that nodes be configurable with
          respect to whether packets with unrecognized headers are
          forwarded, and allows the default behavior to be that such
          packets be dropped."

Why discuss "unrecognized Next Header" here?
Since this is  requirement of 7045 does it need to be restated here?

It says SHOULD log, so that implies the default is "drop and log" but I suspect 
many would be ok with "drop don't log".
I am not sure most of us would want to know about "unrecognized Next Headers" 
but could be wrong here.

pg 5 section 4.
"If a packet is dropped due to this filtering policy, then the packet
   drop event SHOULD be logged in an implementation-specific manner as a
   security fault.  The logging mechanism SHOULD include a drop counter
   dedicated to DHCPv6-Shield packet drops."

Doesn't the counter need to include port?  A system wide counter wouldn't be 
much good.

... The logging mechanism SHOULD include a per port drop counter ...

Note here it says DHCPv6 Shield even though above the logging appears to 
include "unrecognized Next Header". Would the counter include both or just 
DHCPv6 Shield drops?
Maybe two counters (but then we are out of scope for dhcp again?)

pg 5-6 section 4.

"In order to protect current end-node IPv6 implementations, Rule #2
   has been defined as a default rule to drop packets that cannot be
  positively identified as not being DHCPv6-server packets (because the
   packet is a fragment that fails to include the entire IPv6 header
   chain).  This means that, at least in theory, DHCPv6-Shield could
   result in false-positive blocking of some legitimate (non
   DHCPv6-server) packets.  However, as noted in [RFC7112], IPv6 packets
   that fail to include the entire IPv6 header chain are virtually
   impossible to police with state-less filters and firewalls, and hence
   are unlikely to survive in real networks.  [RFC7112] requires that
   hosts employing fragmentation include the entire IPv6 header chain in
   the first fragment (the fragment with the Fragment Offset set to 0),
   thus eliminating the aforementioned false positives."

It seems like 7112 covers this does it need to be part of this?


SILICON SENSE
I think it would make more sense to require dhcpv6 requests come from a special 
OID (Ethernet mac address) and only listen to them from that address.
It would require the switch to only allow that oid be used on dhcp server ports 
but that is much simpler from an silicon point of view.
It would also require changes to the dhcpv6 clients but does simplify the 
solution from a hw pov.
Moving this kind of deep header inspection into layer 2 gives us a new cpu dos 
vector as most vendors would initially (forever?) do that in cpu or shared npu?
We have that problem today with layer 3 routing an headers do we want to push 
this to the next layer down?






(coffee != sleep) & (!coffee == sleep)
 Donald(_dot_)Smith(_at_)centurylink(_dot_)com



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Subject: [OPSEC] Last Call: <draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-04.txt> 
(DHCPv6-Shield: Protecting Against Rogue DHCPv6 Servers) to Best Current 
Practice



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  <draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield-04.txt> as Best Current Practice

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Abstract


   This document specifies a mechanism for protecting hosts connected to
   a switched network against rogue DHCPv6 servers.  The aforementioned
   mechanism is based on DHCPv6 packet-filtering at the layer-2 device
   at which the packets are received.  The aforementioned mechanism has
   been widely deployed in IPv4 networks ('DHCP snooping'), and hence it
   is desirable that similar functionality be provided for IPv6
   networks.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield/

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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield/ballot/


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