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Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF"

2015-06-01 16:19:04
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Encryption everywhere is good.
You mean  Evers public information should be encrypted? I.e. Radio vor TV? 
Can't see the "feature", sorry...

Once a connection is encrypted and certificate-protectedhole class

of worries can be removed from the threat models; having fewer things
to
worry about is great when designing protocol stacks.

This is correct by theory in many, but not all cases and not in practice.

A https geht takes up to multiple times of energy and computing resources. I 
prefer efficiency even in protocols - resources should be user for real (not 
only theoretic) added value.

Browser HTTP-SSL/TLS isn't "just encrypt and forget" as long as you really 
unterstand the whole infrastruture and setup in practice including their 
implications today - and not in theory only. This is not like and comparable 
with the migration from telnet to SSH and even not with SMTP TLS/SSL...

And getting a faked x509 i.e. for mitm is more a question of some money and/or 
third party CA securitiy and not at first of secure crypto algos or similiar.

And blocking plaintext http is no feature - it is at max a lack of...

Sorry...


best regards,

Niels.
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Niels Dettenbach
Syndicat IT & Internet
http://www.syndicat.com
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