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RE: [nfsv4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-06.txt> (Parallel NFS (pNFS) SCSI Layout) to Proposed Standard

2016-07-10 13:52:24
This draft generally looks good.  Looking at this from a SCSI standards 
perspective,
I found a few small things.  The 512 vs. 4k block size (2.3.1) and reservation 
scope
(2.4.10.3) items are important - everything else is editorial, although clarity 
on
commonality with RFC 5663 would be of significant help to any implementer who
has exposure to that.

-- Introduction, last paragraph.

Add a sentence saying that there are no other significant differences from RFC 
5663
(previous sentences indicate use of SCSI for fencing and LAYOUTCOMMIT 
improvements),
e.g., the volume topology (Section 2.3.2) and data structures that describe 
extents
(Section 2.3.3.) are common with RFC 5663.  Those two examples seem important.

-- Section 2.1, 1st paragraph
        " and the SCSI initiators used for the pNFS Metadata Server and clients 
MUST
           support SCSI persistent reservations."
Add a citation of [SPC4] to support that MUST requirement.

-- Section 2.1, 2nd paragraph:

   Clients MUST be able to perform I/O to
   the block extents without affecting additional areas of storage
   (especially important for writes); therefore, extents MUST be aligned
   to 512-byte boundaries.

That assumes a 512 byte logical block size, which is generally ok for now, but 
4k is coming.
At a minimum,  "extents MUST be aligned to logical block size boundaries of the 
logical
units, e.g., 512 bytes."  OTOH, would it be reasonable to just make 4k 
alignment a MUST
now, as there will be storage systems that need 4k alignment and 4k alignment 
generally
works better than 512-byte alignment with existing systems?

-- Section 2.3.1

   It is similar to the "Identification
   Descriptor Target Descriptor" specified in [SPC4], but limits the
   allowed values to those that uniquely identify a LU.

I suggest just deleting this sentence, as that is now called an "Identification 
CSCD Descriptor" - 
if this sentence is retained, the use of those descriptors in EXTENDED COPY 
would be
important to mention - that seems like a diversion.

   2.  The "DESIGNATOR TYPE" MUST be set to one of four values

T10 is now allowing UUIDs to also be used in the working draft of SPC-5, and 
those would be
appropriate here.  Nonetheless, I suggest no change until SPC-5 is completed at 
T10, as this
draft is (properly, IMHO) based on SPC-4.

-- Section 2.4.10.3

   To make sure all I_T nexuses are registered,
   the client SHOULD set the "All Target Ports" (ALL_TG_PT) bit when
   registering the key, or otherwise ensure the registration is
   performed for each initiator port.

It looks like initiator and target registration scopes were conflated here and
need to be separated.  Suggested text:

   To make sure all I_T nexuses are registered,
   the client SHOULD set the "All Target Ports" (ALL_TG_PT) bit when
   registering the key, or otherwise ensure the registration is
   performed for each target port, and MUST perform registration
   for each initiator port.

-- References

Current version of SAM is SAM-5, consider updating SAM-4 reference to SAM-5.

Thanks, --David


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Subject: [nfsv4] Last Call: <draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-06.txt> (Parallel 
NFS
(pNFS) SCSI Layout) to Proposed Standard


The IESG has received a request from the Network File System Version 4 WG
(nfsv4) to consider the following document:
- 'Parallel NFS (pNFS) SCSI Layout'
  <draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-06.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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Abstract


   The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows a separation between
   the metadata (onto a metadata server) and data (onto a storage
   device) for a file.  The SCSI Layout Type is defined in this document
   as an extension to pNFS to allow the use SCSI based block storage
   devices.




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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout/

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