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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04.txt> (Path MTU Discovery for IP version 6) to Internet Standard

2017-02-03 02:16:12
On 2017-2-3, at 1:18, Brian E Carpenter 
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
On 02/02/2017 22:54, Fernando Gont wrote:
On 02/02/2017 06:37 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote:
Given that ICMP delivery cannot be assured over the vast majority of
paths in the current Internet, should this document make a
recommendation to implement RFC4821?

I think that RFC4821 should be recommended, at least for dealing with
ICMP blackholes (i.e., use ICMP if you can, but be able to deal with
scenarios in which you don't receive them).

Many people think that, but this draft is constrained by the rules in
RFC6410 about "high degree of technical maturity" and "widespread
deployment" in the move from PS to Standard. Adding new stuff is not
supposed to happen. If I recall correctly, the WG tuned the language
to its present state for that reason.

So in that case IMO the WG has made the wrong decision by trying to take this 
to Standard. A rev at PS that had brought the content up-to-date with regards 
to Internet reality would have been the better choice.

Lars

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