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Triple DES on PEM WG Agenda

1993-06-18 11:27:00
Subject: Re: PEM WG Agenda
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 15:04:35 +0100
From: Mike Roe <Michael(_dot_)Roe(_at_)cl(_dot_)cam(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk>
Message-Id: <"swan.cl.cam.:105350:930618140526"@cl.cam.ac.uk>


As you're looking for volunteers, I'd be prepared to speak in favour of adding
triple DES to the official PEM algorithms suite.


Mike,

        I'm concerned about any attempt to add triple-DES to the suite
before we have reached consensus on its definition.  In particular, we have
mild agreement that triple DES is

        E(k1, D(k2, E(k3, X ) ) )

but we have quite firm disagreement (a.k.a. religious war) over:

1.      whether k1 = k3

and

2.      where the feedback loop(s) is(are) for CBC.

My personal strong position is on #2 -- that there needs to be three
feedback loops for CBC and therefore three IVs -- for the performance
reasons which I gave earlier on this list.

There are others who believe strongly that there should be one feedback loop.

At this point, the only thing I would believe could be written into a
standard is multiple definitions of "triple-DES" -- at least 2, maybe 4.

 - Carl

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