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PEM: COST-PEM (v 1.1) (Response to S. Kent)

1993-10-12 13:10:00
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Dear Mr. Kent:

Regardless  of  all  your  latest  comments  to  the  recent
discussions on this list, I  am  still  convinced  that  the
"distributed   PEM"   model,   which   we  advocate  in  our
discussions  and   implementations   is   technically   more
appropriate  for  MOST  OF THE FUTURE (on-line) CAs than the
"centralized" RFC 1422 model.  Not to  mention  business  or
even political implications, being "tied-up" to a *BIG* PCA.
But  I  will  leave  this  topic  for  later theoretical and
practical considerations.


In  this  message  I  would  like only to reply back to your
comments related to our current COST-PEM implementation:


1.   It  is true that our CURRENT version [ COST-PEM v 1.1 ]
is not fully PEM-RFC compliant.  We have stated that clearly
in our PCA PEM Policy.  This is only because of our  limited
time/people/money  resources,  so  we  wanted to get out the
first functional version of the COST-, may I call it: "PEM".

2.  However, our next version, expected around Jan 1st, 1994
will  be  in fact more RFC-compliant.  We will introduce the
full DN scheme, and we will also, besides keeping  the  CRLs
with  CAs,  send  them  regularly  to  our PCA.  So our next
version will be exactly as you suggest, RFC-compliant,  with
our "distributed CRL system" as additional feature.

3.   As  you pointed out several times "...  current PEM CRL
database design is intended  as  an  interim  measure  which
mimics  the  functionality  of  X.500  (for CRL retrieval)."
Well, don't you agree that our  current  "distributed  CRLs"
model mimics that standard closer than the official RFC 1422
model ?  

4.    As   far   as   I  know,  none  of  the  existing  PEM
implementations is fully RFC-compliant, but  this  "negative
attribute"   is   again  and  again  attached  only  to  our
implementation.  Just to mention that the full compliance of
all implementations will be  possible  only  when  the  IPRA
becomes  operational.   Until then, all implementations will
be "lonely islands", as they are in  fact  today  and  I  am
convinced that even the accumulations of CRLs with PCAs will
not remove that attribute, since, of course, that is not the
only RFC-compliance requirement.

5.   In  this  context  I would like to suggest to treat the
RFCs flexibly.  I know that standards are to be obeyed,  but
also  to  be  tested  in practice and improved.  I am afraid
that strict requirements to stick completely and formally to
X.500 (and constructs coming out  of  that  standard)  could
make  PEM to have the same destiny as X.500 directories!  If
some practical solutions show more functional,  they  should
be  considered  and  accepted  as  improvements of the basic
standard.  


I  hope  that with our next version [COST-PEM v 2.0] and our
practical experiences we will be  able  soon  to  prove  our
opinions.


Regards,


Sead Muftic
COST Computer Security Technologies
Stockholm, Sweden

  
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