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Re: Nov IETF PEM WG agenda

1993-10-26 13:00:00
Steve Crocker said:
Perhaps there can be a discussion of Triple DES.  I'm interested in
seeing us choose a specific format so we can experiment with it.  It's
probably premature to consider such a choice as a standard, but it's
worth converging on a specific choice if we can.

As I recall, there is moderately broad consensus on EDE with two keys,
the same IV, and single-loop CBC.  However, Carl Ellison has argued
vigorously that single-loop CBC is inherently inefficient for hardware
implementation and triple-loop CBC is the right choice.

Wasn't this discussed at the last meeting, and the RSA folks were
going to do a little analysis?  If there are results, it would be
worth hearing about them.


I asked Eli Biham at Crypto93 about this.  Eli said that single-loop CBC
is stronger for triple-DES, as compared to the three-loop model.  He said 
he can prove this is true for specific cases, and believes it is probably 
true in the general case.  He plans on presenting a paper on his findings 
in December at a conference.

Phil


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