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Re: Concerns about SPF and ebay messages

2003-10-06 07:55:12
eBay forges the From address.  Here is a sample header I used to test with.  
This is pure forgery.  Therefore, eBay will be broken after July 4th 2004 if 
they elect not to fix this issue.

Return-path: <auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net>
X-Reverse-Lookup: by ms-rrdns (v0.6); Found 4 IPs:  Good=3  Bad=0  Private=1 
     66.193.107.30 = 66-193-107-30.gen.twtelecom.net 
     66.193.107.95 = 66-193-107-95.gen.twtelecom.net 
     66.135.197.13 = mxpool07.ebay.com 
     10.6.61.30 = Private.Block[RFC-1918]
Received: from smtp30.newbytes.net (66-193-107-30.gen.twtelecom.net 
[66.193.107.30]) by cyberglobe.net
 (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 
<B0013031335(_at_)www(_dot_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net> for 
<auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net>;
 Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:40:51 -0400
Received: from mx5.newbytes.net ([66.193.107.95])
 by smtp30.newbytes.net with esmtp (SpamSlayer 3.0)
 id 1A6BsP-000KsD-02
 for auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:36:57 -0700
Received: from mxpool07.ebay.com ([66.135.197.13] helo=mx13.sjc.ebay.com)
 by mx5.newbytes.net with esmtp (SpamSlayer 2.0)
 id 1A6Bs3-0006EA-00
 for auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:36:35 -0700
Received: from cellphone.sjc.ebay.com (cellphone.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.61.30])
 by mx13.sjc.ebay.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h95GaP01012220
 for <auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net>; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:36:25 -0700
Message-Id: 
<200310051636(_dot_)h95GaP01012220(_at_)mx13(_dot_)sjc(_dot_)ebay(_dot_)com>
To: auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net
From: auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Subject: Question from eBay Member
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:36:25 PDT
X-SS-01: 66.135.197.13
X-SS-02: mxpool07.ebay.com
X-SS-03: mx13.sjc.ebay.com
X-SS-04: mxpool07.ebay.com ([66.135.197.13] helo=mx13.sjc.ebay.com)
X-SS-05: auctions(_at_)cyberglobe(_dot_)net
X-SS-06: 
X-SpamSlayer: 1210 



Rudy K.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Saez" <david(_at_)ols(_dot_)es>
To: <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] Concerns about SPF and ebay messages


Hi !!

I have read up about SPF and I have a concern with eBay messages.  I 
know
that eBay forges the headers to show that the sender is the from 
address.
 I also know that once SPF goes full Deny, how will eBay be able to send
these messages again?

without any problem, eBayonly forges the headers, not the envelope sender
which is what spf tests.

Are you sure about that? I saw a SPF-based failure on Sep 29th.
2003-09-29 11:11:06 1A42UC-0008Sj-JE H=mxpool07.ebay.com 
(mx13.sjc.ebay.com) [66.135.197.13] F=<email(_at_)address(_dot_)com> 
rejected after DATA: Not authorized by SPF
(I changed the email address for privacy reasons).

well, I really don't know what eBay is doing but all mailing list software I
know uses as the envelope sender the mailing list address or some kind of 
verp 
that belong to the same domain as the mailing list. 

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Best regards ...

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