In <429EAA7D(_dot_)8030807(_at_)idimo(_dot_)com> johnp
<johnp(_at_)idimo(_dot_)com> writes:
How long is it since Meng attended a meeting?
Meng attended the meetings on 2005-05-25 and 2005-05-04.
Why is the council not able to do a simple task of documenting the
existing and in-use version of spf?
Well, part of what is taking so long is I don't think that it is a
"simple" task to try and document the existing version of SPF.
Ok, another really big part is I took a couple months off from SPF.
Sorry.
Why does the council repeatedly fail to resolve the website issue?
Personally, I have been trying to concentrate on the SPF I-D. That
said, there really hasn't been anyone else who has stepped forward to
do the huge amount of work needed to take over the running of the SPF
website. Without the cooperation of Meng, this will be even more
work, and so far Meng hasn't helped much.
Why does the council have such ridiculously long discussions about
points which have been beaten to death on spf-discuss?
"Beaten to death" is not the same thing as "resolved".
When is the council going to resign and stand for re-election?
We recently decided that our terms would be up after 1 year. Yeah,
this is not a very formal way of determining these things. I suspect,
however, if we spent more time on the issue, there would be people
complaining about wasting time on less important things.
Personally, I said I would resign after 6 months, which would be right
around now. I am very conflicted about what to do. My intent was to
get the SPF spec done by now, but as I mentioned above, I took a
couple of months off. I'm not sure if resigning would be best for the
project.
spf is dying on it's feet because of these shortcomings.
We need more people actually *doing* stuff. The council was elected
so that we would have a way of making final decisions, not to do all
the work.
There have been many people who have been helping a great deal with
the SPF I-D, and I am extremely thankful for that, but most of this
work doesn't require the SPF council.
The website, the SPF implementations, I-Ds for SRS (and SES?),
integration into MTAs and many other things also don't require SPF
council effort as much as they require people actually doing stuff.
For giggles, I went through the SPF council IRC logs, and here is what
I came up with as far as meetings go:
2005-06-01 no quorum missing csm (vacation) and Meng,
remaining 3 worked on I-D
2005-05-25 all attended
2005-05-22 no quorum missing MarkK (TZ confusion) and Meng
2005-05-18 quorum; missing Meng
2005-05-11 meeting canceled, neither csm nor Meng could make it
(both gave notice before hand)
2005-05-04 quorum; grumpy was 1hr late (TZ confusion)
2005-04-27 quorum; missing Meng
2005-04-06 no quorum; missing MarkK and Meng
2005-03-23 quorum; missing grumpy (meeting was moved a day earlier
at the last minute)
2005-03-17 "meeting failed", I don't remember why
2005-03-02 quorum; missing Meng
2005-02-23 no quorum; missing csm, grumpy and Meng
2005-02-09 all attended; (MarkK was late due to ISP problems)
2005-01-29 no quorum; missing csm and Meng
2005-01-22 meeting cancelled
2005-01-15 quorum; missing Meng
2005-01-10 meeting cancelled; meng gave notice that he couldn't make it
2005-01-08 no quorum; missing Julian, MarkK and Meng
(I didn't check the meetings in 2004-12 because the IRC logs are a
mess.)
-wayne