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Re: Re: RE: Re: Network diagram - node set intersection

2004-02-27 15:51:58

<cknell(_at_)onebox(_dot_)com> wrote in message
news:B0017674678(_at_)vljcms04(_dot_)ucmretail(_dot_)internal(_dot_)callsciences(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_)
It's one of the bootstrapping conundrums that in order to ask a question
about a subject, you must first know something about it.

Thanks for the URL. The basic graph theory tutorial is helpful, but I want
to keep my system as portable as I can (i.e., Windows or Linux), so I must
eschew C# and .NET.


I think you're wrong here, but it becomes quite OT to discuss this here -- 
if you contact me off-list I'd be glad to explain in details.

I'm not one of those people who spell Microsoft with a "$" in place of the
"s", nor do I think of Bill Gates as if he were an evil mastermind villain
in a James Bond movie. I do see danger in software monoculture just as
monoculture is dangerous in agriculture.


C# is much more portable than you probably think -- it is implemented and
runs on Linux, Windows and Unix -- read more about this and the "Mono"
projects here:

    http://www.go-mono.com/faq.html#platforms

and here:

    http://www.go-mono.com/index.html

Also implemented in this open-source initiative are the CLR, ADO.Net and
ASP.Net

AFAIK one of my friends -- Oleg Tkachenko has even written some XSLT
implementation code for Mono.



Cheers,

Dimitre Novatchev
FXSL developer,

http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
Resume: http://fxsl.sf.net/DNovatchev/Resume/Res.html



-- 
Charles Knell
cknell(_at_)onebox(_dot_)com - email



-----Original Message-----
From:     Dimitre Novatchev <dnovatchev(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com>
Sent:     Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:42:51 +0100
To:       xsl-list(_at_)lists(_dot_)mulberrytech(_dot_)com
Subject:  [xsl] Re: RE: Re: Network diagram - node set intersection

Charles,

If you had asked you'd have saved some time.

Look for the QuickGraph library:
http://www.dotnetwiki.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=129

AFAIK it supports a direct visualization of graphML into SVG.


Cheers,

Dimitre Novatchev
FXSL developer,

http://fxsl.sourceforge.net/ -- the home of FXSL
Resume: http://fxsl.sf.net/DNovatchev/Resume/Res.html


<cknell(_at_)onebox(_dot_)com> wrote in message
news:B0023232588(_at_)vljcms10(_dot_)ucmretail(_dot_)internal(_dot_)callsciences(_dot_)com(_dot_)(_dot_)(_dot_)
Dave, it took me a day to wrap my head around GraphML and I am now able
to
transform my XML to a GraphML representation of the data. I downloaded the
graphviz Windows binary and the dot User's Manual. After about an hour of
fiddling, I was able to transform my GraphML to a dot program and using
dot,
I produced an SVG file. This is, pardon my parochial term,
out-freakin'-standing!

You weren't kidding when you said, "Saves all that 'where does this node
go' hardship of SVG."

I've got to spend some more time on getting the details of the SVG just
right and figuiring out how to integrate the WebDot CGI program into my
setup, but this is really great stuff! Thanks for pointing it out and
thanks
to ATT for making it available.
-- 
Charles Knell
cknell(_at_)onebox(_dot_)com - email



-----Original Message-----
From:     David(_dot_)Pawson(_at_)rnib(_dot_)org(_dot_)uk
Sent:     Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:03:36 -0000
To:       xsl-list(_at_)lists(_dot_)mulberrytech(_dot_)com
Subject:  RE: [xsl] Re: Network diagram - node set intersection

Rather than going directly to SVG, it may make it easier
to go to a graphviz representation, which readily converts
to SVG on output.
  Saves all that 'where does this node go' hardship of SVG.
Great benefit on complex diagrams.

http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/

HTH DaveP

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