Re: XML Data Islands, XML Menu Trees and other stuff

Hi David, and all.

OT i just went to XSLT:Blog and where it should appear (i added the spaces)
I ' m
appears
I â € (TM) m

Now on-topic, i've been searching for info in places like w3schools, and it
gives me the impression that XML data islands and related techniques are very
tyied to IE browser, like HTML elements binding, XML HTTP requests, etc... Also
i saw that XML data islands has nothing to do with W3C...

Is this correct?

My boss suddenly give a high priority to this going-to-be project, so let me
elaborate a little more for you to see if this falls in your techniques.

Do you think you techniques can be adaptable to this, or should i start looking
elsewere?

Regards.

Basically, my intention is to have a menu tree that, when cliked on a node,
would do a trip to the server to get some XML that could be a sub-menu
definition to display dinamically, or a XML ResultSet from a db to display via
XSL/CSS/CSS2, or even a HTML page to display on a frame (altougt i don't like
frames). I want to do this dinamically, specially without refreshing the
browser, as this has a tendency to become very heavy.



Quoting "M. David Peterson" <m(_dot_)david(_at_)mdptws(_dot_)com>:

Actually, I think I may have what you are looking for.  In my spare time
I have been working on a cross browser implementation that uses a
combination of XML data islands, XML data files, and XSLT 1.0
stylesheets coupled with client side javascript to pass variables to the
stylesheets which then use these variables with the document() function
to access new data files to transform.  Its part of a project that I am
implementing for a client so I wont be able to show it to you as is...
but as soon as I have a chance I will break open the code base and pull
the non-client-specific files out.  I can then put in some foo xml files
to showcase whats going on.

When I'm done I will reply back here and on post the files to
xsltblog.com for the consumption of anyone interested in this method.  I
doubt highly I will get to it today but I should have a chance sometime
before Monday to put it together and publish it.

Cheers!

<M:D/>

xptm(_at_)sapo(_dot_)pt wrote:

Thanks Shawn. I've allready done some things with CSS2 so it's a good source

for

me. I'll look into it.

How about XML/XSL editors, what are people using?

Thanks.

Citando Shawn <sgrover(_at_)open2space(_dot_)com>:

Take a look at http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/ with regards to the
menu
(see the Pure CSS Menus link).  The menu allows popup menus (for browsers
with CSS2 support), with CSS only - no javascript or image swapping.  It

even

degrades in a decent manner for browsers that don't have full CSS2 support
(like IE).  Be sure to check out the other topics on his site - he's done
some really amazing stuff with CSS.

I've recently had to put together a proof of concept on this, using XML/XSL
to
create the menu items.  Once you work through the coding, it's actually

damn

easy (probably easier for those who are much more familiar with XSL than I
am).

I can't help you too much with regards to data islands.  However, in the

past

I have used WDDX and JavaScript to manipulate data on the fly client-side,
refresh the page with said data (without a trip to the server), then
eventually submit the data back to the server for processing.  It wasn't

that

tough.  I've seen articles online on how to parse/build XML via JavaScript,
so that should be just as easy.  (For any who don't know, WDDX is an XML
format for passing complex structures, developed by Allaire/Macromedia.

It's

useful, but I think support for it is slowly fading in favor of SOAP.)

HTH

Shawn

On Friday 26 November 2004 06:43, xptm(_at_)sapo(_dot_)pt wrote:

I have to do a research to my boss involving a lot of XML technologies to
try to define a path for future developments.

My aim is to try to define the most platform independent solution i can,
away from MS and if possible not very Java dependent. So i'm looking to
XML/XSL, and since you are all such a great guys (~violin music~) i'll ask
for your advice.

I've been looking at XML Data Islands but don't understand what it is
really. Is it a MS only feature or is it a W3C definition? Can i treat XML
Data Islands with XSL?

The aim here is to have portions of a html page been updated without a

trip

to the server, refreshing the all page.

I saw here in the list people asking about building tree-like menus out of
XML. Are there any examples i can show my boss?

What good IDE's are for XML/XSL, with visual capabilities?

And if any of you has some ideas about XML/XSL (and CSS/CSS2) techniques
toward a platform-independent solution please give me some points.

Thanks to all for your kindness (~violins again~).


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