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Re: XSLT Processors in .NET and Schema-awareness

2005-09-23 21:31:27
Hey Everyone,

While I am still working on the site design, layout, structure, etc...
I do have the wiki up and the initial page create with instructions
regarding how you can begin to take part in creating documentation for
the Saxon.NET project.  I realize that for some, if not most, its a
little hard to document something you know very little about.

So thats why I am encouraging you to just make something up as,
really, who's going to know the difference besides a handful of us
anyway? :)

Of course, I'm kidding :)  What I'm actually hoping is that the
through a kind-of sort-of trickle down process, which each little bit
you can add somebody else will be positively influenced, play around,
discover something new, document it, etc...  While its not necessarily
the best approach, its definitely something, and something is better
than nothing for sure.

I do plan to add as much to this when time allows.  And as the next
couple of months clear up I will definitely continue to add more.  But
if we can make a community effort at this I really think we can both
have some fun and create something pretty impressive in a modestly
short period of time.

With that, please visit http://understandingsaxon.net/wiki/ to get start.

I'll update this thread again when the main interface to the site is
ready.  And please let me know > m(_dot_)david(_at_)xmlhacker(_dot_)com < if 
you would
like a blog set-up in this space.  I actually have the software in
place and am simply playing with the layout to help give the entire
site a more unified feel to it.  But until someone actually requests
an account to be set-up theres not a lot of point in broadcasting the
address, although its probably not all that difficult to figure out :)

Thanks everyone!

On 9/23/05, M. David Peterson <m(_dot_)david(_dot_)x2x2x(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> 
wrote:
Hi António,

Fortunately I've got good friends watching my back and quickly
notified me stating:

- People clearly need good documentation for Saxon.NET
- This whole thread will be interesting to read

Indeed, both are true.

In regards to a Schema-Aware version of Saxon.NET:

 - As David Carlisle mentioned, there is no Schema-Aware support in
Saxon.NET, at least not at present time.  If and when a Saxon.NET-SA
version will become available is stricly up to Dr. Kay to decide.
Obviously from a business standpoint there needs to be justfication
for the investment.  I think we can safely assume that Dr. Kay will
know if and when the time is right to bring such a product to market.
There are two lists I would subscribe two:

 - saxon-announce > 
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/saxon-announce <
 - saxon-help > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/saxon-help <

Based on the description of each list, I would probably post questions
regarding a potential Saxon.NET-SA release to saxon-help, and then
keep an eye on saxon-announce for any announcements in this space.

In regards to Saxon.NET-B and proper documentation:

 - With one book just coming to completion and another one just
getting started time is a bit limited at present time.  Still, I have
a site that I have planned to implement both a community blog (anybody
interested in having an account will be given one upon request) and
community wiki such that we can begin to start developing proper
documentation as a community.  The location will be
http://UnderstandingSaxon.NET.  Its obvious this needed to happen long
before now, but better late than never.  I have added it to my task
list for today and one way or another will find the time to get it
done and announce its completion to this list when it is.

In the mean time, if there is anybody who would like a blog account
set-up on this domain (will be located at
http://understandingsaxon.net/blog/yourname) please email me directly
as to keep this kind of traffic off the list to avoid clogging
everybody's inbox with things that, while XSLT-related, are certainly
not going to help anybody understanding things better with requests
for a blog account to be set-up.

Please email requests to: m(_dot_)david(_at_)xmlhacker(_dot_)com

I would expect at least a few hours to pass before an announcement
regarding the site entry page, blog, and wiki are "now live"

Cheers :)

<M:D/>


On 9/23/05, Ragulf Pickaxe <ragulf(_dot_)pickaxe(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi António,

My understanding is that Saxon.NET is very much equal to Saxon.

I think that Dimitre Novachev has Saxon.NET in his test suite for FXSL.
This message (1st of april) from Dimitre tells that, at that time,
Saxon.NET was quite stable:
http://www.biglist.com/lists/xsl-list/archives/200503/msg01408.html

I have not heard much about it in the last couple of months, but I
certainly hope that the progress is still going on. My understanding
is that that was certainly the plan.

Regards,
Ragulf Pickaxe :-)


On 9/23/05, António Mota <amsmota(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
So two more questions:

If i drop the "schema-awareness" can i use Saxon .NET in IIS as a
XSL/XPATH 2.0 processor? Is this product stable?

Are there plans from the Saxon.NET guys to port the SA version of Saxon?

I really like to install a Java based version, as i'm more confortable
with Java then VB or C#, but my boss didn't buy that...

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