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Re: [xsl] Nesting a flat XML structure

2018-10-29 18:21:34
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the kind words. No I've not published anything on this technique 
yet. I'll definitely do that once the project is released. I'm under NDA on 
this so I can't give any details yet. Hence my abstract reference to the 
problems I have encountered...

~ Ian



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From: Peter Flynn peter(_at_)silmaril(_dot_)ie 
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Subject: Re: [xsl] Nesting a flat XML structure

On 29/10/18 21:52, ian(_dot_)proudfoot(_at_)itp-x(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk wrote:
Going a little off topic, but the concept is relatively simple. Many 
writers don't make the best use of their word processors. Maybe lists 
are manually indented with bullets inserted from a character palette.
Titles may be 'Normal' text with character overrides for font size and 
weight.

Indeed they are. This was the starting-point in my session at the XML 
Summerschool on how to deal with Word documents as a source for XML in 
publishing.

Careful analysis of many documents showed that there are between eight 
and ten properties that have the most effect on the output for 
character styles and paragraph styles. This is presented as an 
override code in a format that is very compact but also possible for 
anyone to understand. The combination of any correctly defined style 
name plus its override code gives us a key that can be used for 
mapping to elements in the output.

Very ingenious — have you published this? I'd be interested to compare it to 
the dozen or so areas I investigated when looking at the use of editing 
software for structured documents
(https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/1690)

This works well when there is some inherent logic to the implied 
structure of the source document. Less so when no regard has been 
given to sensible style use.

That's the key, of course. The problem of getting authors to adhere to 
stylesheets is a lost cause of many years (in most cases: there are a few 
exceptions). In effect, as Wendell and Tommie put it, "the author sees it as 
*his own job* to invent the schema"¹

///Peter
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¹ Piez, W., & Usdin, T. (2007). 'Separating Mapping from Coding in 
Transformation Tasks'. XML Conference. Boston, MA: IdeAlliance.
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