I am not sure Dave's list is a complete list of stuff to remember, but it's
definitely a list of stuff to remember.
I'm not quite sure where the discussion forum for
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-narten-successful-bof-01.txt is,
but I really like the collection of stuff to remember that it contains so
far.
Not sure who has seen this draft yet, but if you've seen 00, 01 is an
improvement, too. The change I like best was the breaking some steps into
finer-grained "stuff" (we tend to tell someone "talk to the AD", and neglect
minor points like what ADs look like, where to find them, how to know which
one to talk to, etc.)
I'm not sure where comments on this draft are supposed to go (Brian and
Thomas are talking), but if people wanted to start by reading 01, that would
be pretty helpful, when the location gets figured out.
My understanding of the scope of this draft is that it's descriptive (makes
recommendations for working in the current system). There's probably some
reasonable changes to the current system that could be proposed, too, but
that doesn't look like the focus, for now.
Thanks,
Spencer
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>
The current model for BOFs tends to view the first one as a free shot. No
history required.
Given how poorly such first meetings tend to go, I am at a loss to
understand why this model persists. Remember that a BOF is for gauging
community interest in the working group. That simply is not possible when
the topic has no meaningful IETF online history.
I am in the camp that believes that IETF meeting time is extremely
valuable and that the IETF is still predicated on email list discussion as
its primary venue(s).
As such -- particularly a BOF targeting working group formation -- we
should require that a pre-wg BOF be required to have:
a) formed an online discussion, some months ahead of any possible BOF
b) its formation announced on ietf-announce
b) put forward a sample charter on that discussion list
c) conducted discussion of that charter, prior to the BOF.
That way, there is a basis for recruiting informed participation, as well
as gauging a degree of community interest.
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