-----Original Message-----
From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:15 AM
To: Ed Juskevicius
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf-announce(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
wgchairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
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'Trustees'; Contreras, Jorge
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your
comments on revised proposed legend text to work-around the
Pre-5378 Problem
...
I wonder if
"Without obtaining... this document may not be modified
outside..." is a stronger assertion than the Trust is in a
position to make. Would it not be preferable (and several words
shorter) to just say something like "The IETF Trust cannot give
permission for modifications of this document outside the IETF
Standards Process, nor for derivative works outside the IETF
Standards Process, except ..." (translated into appropriate
legal language, of course).
That way, you are giving no advice at all about licenses or
people who might have rights. You also aren't telling people
what they can't do, only what you don't have enough permission
or ownership to tell them they can do. That just feels better
to me.
Actually, those words are included in a legend that will be applied by
document authors. Thus, the "speaker" is the author, not the Trust.
The author is telling the Trust (and everyone else) that derivatives
cannot be made to the pre-5378 material. Does that help with your
discomfort?
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