For various reasons, I have participated in the last 3 meetings
"remotely."
While I am very grateful for the technical tools (streaming audio, jabber
room, etc.) that make such "remote participation" possible, it is in no
way a substitute for the greater level of interaction I get when attending
the meeting in person.
Furthermore, I am willing to get up a 3 AM (my time) to "attend" a WG in
which I already have an active interest. But I am less likely to get up
at 3 AM for a WG that "sounds as if it MIGHT be interesting". When I am
there in person, I am more likely to go to that "MIGHT be interesting"
meeting.
Janet
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From:
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
To:
Hascall Sharp <chsharp(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>, ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org,
olaf(_at_)NLnetLabs(_dot_)nl
Date:
09/07/2010 04:47 PM
Subject:
Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent
At 05:45 PM 9/3/2010, Hascall Sharp wrote:
On 8/30/10 3:57 PM, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
...snip...
Am I missing something?
...snip...
Yes. The IETF is having too many meetings where physical presence
is required in order to participate effectively in the work.
Creating the ability to mimic or replicate the effectiveness of a WG
meeting is only part of the benefit of attendance at an IETF. Many
of us that have been going there for years and years have the benefit
of chance/rendezvous meetings in the hallway to discuss a topic
- that we didn't know was being discussed, or
- that we may now find ourselves in the middle of, or
- that a small group might want to have outside of the main
discussion area/session, or
- etc
Many of us have lots of ideas bantering around in our heads between
meetings (or that have been dormant for a while) that this type of
chance meeting could generate something of a meeting-of-the-minds
about starting something new or something different that how it's done
now.
Many newcomers - whether this is their actual first meeting or just
in their first few meetings - actively or passively seek out certain
individuals for the possibility of having such a planned chance
meeting in a hallway.
None of this can effectively be done with IETF meetings moving to
webex or worse, only on email.
That said - I fully understand the financial burdens on people or
corporations during non-robust years of economic (non) growth, such
as we're in the middle of.
JMO, which could be wrong
James
It seems to me that IETF is going in the wrong direction in terms of
meetings.
But maybe I'm getting old and cranky and everyone else has an ever
expanding travel budget.
chip
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