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From: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme(_at_)americafree(_dot_)tv>
To: <mrex(_at_)sap(_dot_)com>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>; "NomCom Chair"
<nomcom-chair(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:47 AM
On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Martin Rex wrote:
NomCom Chair wrote:
Nominations have slowed down dramatically, so this update is to enlist
the community in an effort to pick up the pace.
We are very far behind in nominations for all the open positions but in
particular we need nominations for the IESG and IAOC open positions.
[...] Likewise, in IAOC there have been no nominations submitted
other than the incumbent.
The ongoing discussion on IAOC-related issues of meeting venue problems
on the IETF discussion list may not be a charming motivator for new
volunteers for IAOC positions. :-/
Some of the complaints I've heard sound reasonable/plausible, but
what host and IAOC would probably need to start addressing issue
is sketches of clear and practical solution approaches to try
experimental remedies as soon as possible. Dividing and conquering
the pool of alleged problems would probably help budgeting
remedy experiments in matter of resource requirements (time and money)
and in order to obtain feedback from the IETF community whether
a "proposed fix" is worth exploring and its priority.
It is likely neither possible to please everyone, or to assign every
problem topmost priority. Scratching itches individually in
managable quantities may prevent the morale of IAOC volunteers,
which may have crashed through the floor by now, from dropping out
of sight and out of reach... ;-)
I can't speak for anyone else, but I like vigorous debate.
Marshall
Trouble is, vigorous debate is how politicians take decisions, for better or
worse. We are primarily an engineering organisation, whose outcomes should be
judged by the engineering of the Internet, so our meeting venues should be
oriented towards the needs of engineers. Good engineers may make bad
politicians and vice versa, so this debate may lead to venues which suit the
good politicians amongst us and do not suit the good engineers.
Our protocol decisions are based on rough consensus and running code; I am not
clear what the equivalent should be for where we meet, but I doubt if debate
will get us there.
Tom Petch
(a poor politician)
Regards
Marshall
-Martin
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