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RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt> (Diameter Base, Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2010-10-18 10:42:04
Hi Stefan,

Thank you for the comment and sorry for the taking a few days to answer this, 
but your comment generated some discussions within the IESG, which are still 
ongoing. 

There was no IPR disclosure made directly on draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt, 
and this is why the IETF LC does not mention any. This may be a miss in the 
case of 'bis' documents, and we are discussing in the IETF whether our 
procedures need not be modified to cover such cases. For the specific case I 
asked the IESG secretary to contact the submitters of the IPR disclosure on RFC 
3588 and check with them whether they believe that the IPR also applies to 
draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt. 

Regards,

Dan


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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-25.txt> 
(Diameter Base,Protocol) to Proposed Standard


  Hi,

I was surprised to see the line "No IPR declarations were 
found that appear related to this I-D." in the message from 
ietf-announce. Its predecessor, RFC3588, has a filed IPR 
disclosure from Nokia, see

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/323/

A very long time ago, I looked into the patents in question, 
and they seemed to be related to the T-Bit (Diameter message 
command flag for "potentially re-transmitted message").

Page 35 in 3588bis still contains the T-Bit. As a naive 
non-legalese person, I would think that the same disclosure 
that applied to the T-Bit in 3588 also applies to the T-Bit 
in 3588bis then.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

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