Doug Barton wrote:
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But your point is well taken ... the "right" answer may be to fix or
discard DMARC, I honestly don't know. But in a world where DMARC is
here to stay, or if not DMARC then some other anti-spam solution that
breaks mailing list forwarding; and in that same world where mailing
list traffic is negligible (and therefore the cost of breaking mailing
lists is in the noise compared to the benefits of deploying said
anti-spam solution) it's incumbent on the mailing list software folks
to solve this problem
Is it perhaps also incumbent on the folks promulgating DMARC (and its
predecessors, and its sure-to-be successors) to work cooperatively with
mailing list developers, rather than taking the position "nope, we break
mailing lists, not our problem?"
I'm kind of coming to the conclusion that what we need to be looking at
is defining an SMTP extension that addresses BOTH sets of concerns - and
doing so in a cooperative manner that engages not just the community
behind DKIM and DMARC, but also the developers and operators of mailman,
sympa, majordomo, listserv - and ideally the sendmail, postfix, exim,
qmail community.
Dare I suggest that this calls for an IETF working group?
Miles Fidelman
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra