Hi.
I also quite liked the watersprings interface and was saddened by its
demise. However, Henrik's draft searching scheme does most of what I
need and the interface at tools.ietf.org/html/draft... gives you the
access to all the versions and output renderings.
The only thing lacking is the ability to have a nicely formatted and
resonably compact list of all the drafts ever made starting with a given
letter. Useful for idle browsing and finding drafts you can't quite
remember the title or authors of.
Warren: If you have time and enthusiasm I'd be inclined to see if a
couple of extra screens could be added to what we have already rather
than reimplementating a separate Watersprings clone since the back end
is already in place.
I don't think that putting back what Watersprings had exactly would give
you any more ancient history. I seem to remember that it didn't have
drafts earlier than about 1995, but it's a long time since I checked
that ;-). I did when I was looking for Nimrod routing history and other
stuff for the routing history RFC.
The current tool has a smattering of moderately ancient history already:
Some of the suggestions for IPng are there:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-crocker-ip-encaps-01
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deering-sip-00
(The REAL SIP!)
but I suspect the list is incomplete - however unless the file archives
are lurking in some server, I don't know how we would know (did
ietf-announce exist in those days and would it help?)
Regards,
Elwyn
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 19:15 +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Interesting, Warren.
I used to use waterspring and still have an annoying bookmark that
autocompletes when I start to type www.wat...
At the time that waterspring was set up we didn't archive old versions of
I-Ds and once an I-D had expired it disappeared (related issues, but
separately annoying). That is no longer the case, so the (UI aside) the main
residual value would be retrieving the archive of old I-Ds and I am not so
sure how useful that is, but archivists and IPR lawyers might comment).
Adrian
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Kumari
Sent: 02 July 2014 19:09
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org Disgust
Subject: Reviving watersprings.org.
Hi there all,
A number of years ago there was a site called watersprings.org which
archived Internet Drafts and RFCs and provided some interesting
linking between them.
I never used it, but apparently a number of folk really liked the
interface / etc.
The site was hosted in Japan and the creator shut it down to conserve
power after the 2011 tsunami. I provided him a VM (on a machine that
nLayer / Richard Steenbergen hosts for me), and we started migrating
over to it. Unfortunately, he no longer has the time / resources to
run the site, and we never finished the migration / the scripts
haven't run since then.
Anyway, I've offered to take over maintaining the VM, try figure out
how it all works, upgrade it, finish the migration, etc.
Before spending the time on this though, I figured I should check if
folk still want it / think that it will be a useful resource. The time
investment will be fairly significnat, but happy to do it if folk will
use it...