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Re: Hotel networks (Was Re: Security for the IETF wireless network)

2014-07-31 23:50:20
At 9:45 PM -0700 7/31/14, Randall Gellens wrote:

 At 10:04 AM -0400 7/25/14, John C Klensin wrote:

  I think the world would be a better place (and not just for IETF
  meetings) if hotels disclosed what they actually were providing
  when they advertise "Internet service".  But, having seen about
  zero attention paid to our efforts in that direction almost ten
  years ago (trying to specify what the words should mean) go
  exactly nowhere and having a major ISP respond to complaints
  that a service advertised as "up to 5 Mbps" was delivering under
  800 kpbs with "speeds not guaranteed", I'm pretty pessimistic
  about near-term progress in that area.
  If the IETF could do something about it, I don't know what it
  would be.  I suppose we could publish post-meeting performance
  and capability information on the hotels we use (including
  before and during the switch to our external connections), but
  that might make some otherwise reasonable hotel choices decide
  they don't really want us.   On the other hand, some of us
  could, as individuals, approach some popular travel rating sites
  and encourage them to create a much more sophisticated category/
  report for Internet connectivity than "yes" or "no" and start
  reporting what we find when we travel.

 I happened to see this today

 "How to Check a Hotel's WiFi Speed Before Checking In"

http://www.frequentflier.com/blog/how-to-check-a-hotels-wifi-speed-before-checking-in/

Which reports that the site http://www.hotelwifitest.com makes speed tests and speed test results available:

"The results of user's speed tests are also combined with other users' input to create hotel WiFi profiles viewable on the Hotel Wifi Test webpage."

Seems like a step in the right direction. Of course, speed during a few samples isn't the complete picture, but it's better than nothing. Perhaps IETFers can help the site measure other factors?

By the way, the site reports that the Fairmont Royal York has an expected speed of 9.3 Mbps, a maximum of 18.5 Mbps, with a confidence of 17.5%.

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Randall Gellens
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