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Re: UTF-8 over RFC 2047 (Re: Call for Usefor to recharter)

2003-01-14 13:05:03

David Barr <barr(_at_)visi(_dot_)com> writes:

It doesn't take much common sense to see those people putting 8-bit data
in headers are precisely the ones who think a) 8-bits in headers work
(for their purposes)

Yes.

and thus b) would be most likely to adopt an 8-bit standard.

I don't see how this necessarily follows.  In fact, I believe that the
people who are currently using only ASCII are more likely to adopt a UTF-8
standard than the people who are currently sending 8-bit data in headers,
which is the exactly opposite of your point (b).

Most importantly they would likely be the *least* likely to accept going
back to 7 bits and encoding if they already have experience that 8-bits
work.

This is probably true, yes.

Given the history of how many standards have evolved in the past, I
can't much reason to agree with you.  Protocols are *full* of examples
of this sort of evolution, whereby technically illegal (but largely
working) practices evolved into an accepted form.

Yes.  Done by standardizing what people are already doing.

Standardizing UTF-8 in headers is not standardizing what people are
already doing.  There are considerably fewer people using UTF-8 in headers
than there are people who are using RFC 2047.

If you were talking about standardizing sending local 8-bit character sets
in headers, I could see how this argument would apply, but given that
we're talking about going from one workable but somewhat unpopular
standard to a brand-new standard that bears no resemblence to what people
are doing now, I don't believe the "evolution of standards by
standardizing technically invalid but existing practice" argument applies
at all.

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Russ Allbery (rra(_at_)stanford(_dot_)edu)             
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