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Re: Mandatory From field, anonymity, and hacks

2004-07-29 14:40:18

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:48:55 -0400, Keith Moore 
<moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu> wrote:

On Jul 26, 2004, at 10:40 PM, Bruce Lilly wrote:

As noted above, the most important thing is that the sender envelope
address be usable.

in a news-to-mail gateway? I think not. the sender of a usenet message doesn't want to know whether some random recipient got the message.

I believe the normal practice in a news-to-mail gateway would be to set the Sender address and the Return-Path to the gateway.

Usenet news is an application of the RFC [2]822 Internet Message Format.

no more than SMTP is an application of the FTP protocol.  in either case
the two are similar but different protocols, with different syntax and
semantics.  there are both advantages and disadvantages to having
usenet and [2]822 so similar.

Thank you for that. Bruce has been trying to say for months that Netnews is just a special kind of mail that is bound by RFC 2822. Which is of course nonsense. They are different protocols, and the fact that Netnews tries to follow RFC 2822 whereever it can is that it makes good sense to do so, not because there is some law of the universe that says it must.

I note that there are other protocols which depart from RFC 2822 much more than Netnews does, with the full blessing of the IESG (SIP, for example).

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