Re: Mandatory From field, anonymity, and hacks

Charles Lindsey wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:48:55 -0400, Keith Moore 
> <moore(_at_)cs(_dot_)utk(_dot_)edu> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 26, 2004, at 10:40 PM, Bruce Lilly wrote:
> >
> > > As noted above, the most important thing is that the sender envelope
> > > address be usable.
> >
> > in a news-to-mail gateway?  I think not.  the sender of a usenet
> > message  doesn't want to know whether some random recipient got the
> > message.
>
> I believe the normal practice in a news-to-mail gateway would be to set 
> the Sender address and the Return-Path to the gateway.
The Sender header field has nothing to do with the envelope sender, and
the Return-Path field is set on *final* delivery, not by gateways.

> Thank you for that. Bruce has been trying to say for months that
> Netnews  is just a special kind of mail
That is an outrageous lie; I have never said any such thing.

> I note that there are other protocols which depart from RFC 2822 much
> more  than Netnews does, with the full blessing of the IESG (SIP, for
> example).
SIP has nothing whatsoever to do with RFC 2822 Internet Message Format;
is is somewhat similar to HTTP, which it itself quite different from the
Internet Message Format.