I am currently working on a draft summarizing IP issues relevant to the
group AND a list of all IP claims with statements from owners.
But I believe it was mentioned in a list message before
(https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg02089.html):
>From: william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:03:12 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: [Asrg] ASRG work items
>
>lso I'd like to add additional topic - IPR. I know IRTF currently does
>not have IPR policy, but I'd like one established just for this research
>group. I think we can do the following:
>1. Whenever somebody mentions technology where they know some patent exist
>or may possibly apply to the technology, the person should make statement
>about IPR rights. If this patent has not been mentioned before on list,
>there should be information either together with IPR statement or at the
>end of message with either:
> a. If patent is received: US (or other country), Patent#, possibly link
> to the patent website
> b. If patent is pending - Name of person or organization that filed it
> and date it was filed, possibly application#
>2. I would like to see somebody on the list volunteer to maintain list
>of all patents mentioned (see abobve) and this list provided either
>regularly to email list or located and updated on rg website.
Yakov
At 07:43 AM 5/29/2003 -1000, Peter Kay wrote:
Is this discussion of IPR policy within the scope of this list's
discussion?
I look at :
http://www.irtf.org/asrg/
And read the posting guidelines which say all conversation must be
related to the work items at
http://www.irtf.org/asrg/asrg-work-items.txt
and there's nothing there about IPR. Perhaps IPR is a bigger issue to be
taken at higher levels.
As one who has patent-pending on an anti-spam technology, I've got a lot
to say but won't if its inappropriate for this list.
Peter Kay
President
TitanKey Software
Web: www.titankey.com
The only technology that stops spam BEFORE it's even sent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wheeler [mailto:dwheeler(_at_)ida(_dot_)org]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:13 AM
> To: Paul Judge
> Cc: 'asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org'
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] (Position): Successful anti-spam
> techniques must avoid software patents
>
>
>
>
> Paul Judge wrote:
>
> >
> > We've had previous discussions about IPR policy. Please see Vern
> > Paxson's message on the topic:
> >
> https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working->
groups/asrg/current/msg0192
> > 9.html
> > . If anyone feels the need to voice additional positions on
> this topic,
> > please feel free to address them to me off-list.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing me to the previous email.
> However, that email simply points out that there's no policy
> and that there appears to be a need for one... I don't see a
> decision being made. In particular, it suggests that: "for
> any technology discussed within RGs that has related IPR,
> that the presence of the possible IPR be disclosed."
>
> While I believe that's too weak, required disclosure is at
> least a good start for informed discussion, and that at least
> is something that the working group could quickly agree on as
> a starting point.
>
> Can the working group at least agree to require disclosure
> the presence of any related IPR (including _pending_
> patents)? This is the sort of thing that has to be agreed on
> NOW, during discussions, instead of waiting for "later" (when
> it will be too late). Otherwise, a few enterprising
> individuals will submit patent requests on obvious ideas the
> day before they post, work hard to make sure their idea is
> implemented, and then surprise all with a patent (the U.S.
> PTO, for example, is notoriously bad at identifying obvious
> ideas). The result: anti-spam approaches will fail.
>
> --- David A. Wheeler
>
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