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RE: *Possible Spam *RE: [Asrg] criteria for spam V2

2003-06-06 03:30:01
Hi,

Sorry to chip in but I can't help it, this discussion about the meaning of 
words is strangely compelling!
Here goes my 2c..

I don't think there needs to be a special definition for 'bulk' other than
it constitutes more than one, as most people should agree with.

IMHO Spam isn't defined by quantity but by whether or not you want or expect to 
receive it. However it has become a serious problem because of the quantity.

Any definition of spam should not include any reference to quantity.
Any definition of the problem would address the issues raised by spam being 
sent in quantity.
If I sent a single mail offering any of you cheap viagra that would be a single 
mail, still spam and an annoyance, but not really a serious problem. It would 
cease to be spam if you now ask me to send it, as the process of your asking 
for it makes it appropriate for me to send it.

As far as permission to send me mail, that is implicitly granted to many 
people, often restricted to on-topic content, but very often not explicitly 
solicited. A mail from this list (generally solicited) offering me cheap viagra 
is spam because it is off-topic.

The only certainty is that spam is unwanted. This is a subjective decision by 
the recipient and would require different rules for everyone. However systems 
already exist which can learn sophisticated behaviour for filtering mail from 
group or individual accounts. 

The process of defining the problem shouldn't be influenced by preconceptions 
about the possible answer, just because "unwanted" cannot be reduce to a series 
of general logical rules and encapsulated in an algorithm and used to solve our 
problem doesn't mean that "unwanted" is not the correct definition of spam.

I would contend that rather than "Unsolicited Bulk Email" spam is quite simply 
"Unwanted email" where "unwanted" is mail with inappropriate content. By which 
definition unsolicited mail from friends or colleagues is not spam, but off 
topic mail being relayed by list servers to which you have subscribed is. 

I don't think automation is relevant to the definition of spam, it may be a 
fact that spam is sent by automated systems but that doesn't define spam it 
merely exacerbates the problem of quantity by making it easier to deliver large 
quantities.

Which brings me to the definition of quantity. If you only mean more than one 
why look for more impressive words when you can say "multiple"? "Multiple 
Unwanted Emails" as in "Our users' inboxes are filling with multiple unwanted 
emails" 

If you mean a distinct single item containing a quantity of undifferentiated 
material say "bulk", a single mail with many recipients is a (singular) bulk 
mail, as in "Their servers were used to transmit bulk unwanted email".
The phrase "Break-of-bulk point"[1] means the point (often at the interface 
between transports) at which a single bulk is split into its constituent parts, 
or sub-divided into smaller bulks for forward transport. 
To my mind this is exactly the way in which a single email with multiple 
recipients is handled by SMTP, therefore bulk is a reasonable term to use for 
this kind of mail, but is more narrowly defined than "multiple" or "in bulk".

If you mean many similar individual items being handled in quantity say "in 
bulk" as in: "Our servers have been indiscriminately relaying unwanted email in 
bulk".
SMTP applies this idea where MTA's collect mail for a single destination 
together and transport it in bulk in a single session.

A system sending a single mail addressed to many users on another system or 
many other systems is sending a bulk email.
A system sending mail in quantity to users on another system or many other 
systems is sending email in bulk.
A system sending many individual emails to many individual users on many other 
systems, but few are using the same transport at the same time, is sending 
multiple emails.

Spam, from the POV of the sender is therefore "Multiple Unwanted Emails", and 
may at the same time also be "Bulk Unwanted Email" or "Unwanted Email in Bulk".

From the POV of thresholds you want to identify unwanted email being sent in 
bulk or individual bulks, to efficiently stop this mail before the bulk is 
broken, and the horse has bolted. 

Spam from the POV of the individual recipient is unwanted but probably not 
"bulk" or "in bulk" by the time it arrives, generally you will only receive one 
copy of each mail, but it may be "multiple" if you receive many different 
unsolicited emails.

Spam from the POV of intermediate transports could be all of bulk, in-bulk and 
multiple, and it would be hard for the intermediate transport to make a 
decision about wanted or unwanted by the recipient.

d.

[1]From geography, with heavy emphasis on the port connection ;-)...  
(http://faculty.washington.edu/krumme/gloss/b.html) Break-of-bulk point: The 
location (usually a port) where a shipment is divided into parts. This usually 
(such as at the port) happens where a transfer of the shipment between 
transport modes occurs, such as between water and land at a port. 

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