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2003-07-01 06:36:09
Mark McCarron wrote:

 SMTP is a dying 
protocol, imagine what it would be like in 10 years?

Erm .. I don't think that is quite correct, surely?
I know that IM is growing in popularity and I wouldn't be surprised if SMTP was 
loosing "market share" but to describe what must be one of, if not the, most 
widely used internet protocols as dying is preposterous.

Perhaps you could back up your claim with evidence, I'd be happy to eat humble 
pie if you're right.

This will be easy enough.  There will be a period of transition.  
Its not as 
hard as everyone thinks.  I agree it will be a challange, but hey 
come on, 
its not rocket science.

The science is not the hard bit, it is the cost. I'm sure we could come up with 
a dozen really secure mail protocols from the expertise on this list alone. Do 
you imagine that updates for every piece of mail software will be made 
available free it might not be available at all for some systems if you can't 
write it yourself, or that the admins who have to install and manage it will do 
so without incurring cost?

On a home user basis it may be trivial but in the wicked world of business any 
such change would cost a packet, look at the cost of installing y2k patches.

The system we tested it on was a private network, also, it wasn't 
using the 
full aspects of the 'GIEIS' design.  It was just a feasibility 
test and it 
responded well, in fact, 100%.

100% of what? did you try to break it, did you try to fool it, what happens to 
mail if you launch a DOS attack on the token server? 

alone.  For those of you who remember MSN started out as an x.25 network 
without any pop3 servers.  If I remember correctly they were a 
form of IMAP 

AFAIK MSN used to provide SMTP "kick" whereby the act of logging into the 
network provoked the SMTP server to attempt to deliver your mail to you. I may 
be wrong though.

d.
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