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RE: [Asrg] 'GIEIS' - The Fourth Response

2003-07-03 07:51:37
I seem to remember that excessive port scanning was one of the issues that
was litigated in the new Zealand ORBS cases. 

I tried to read the GIEIS paper and I cannot understand what the proposal
is, what it is trying to achieve or what the prospect of a reduction in spam
as a result would be.

Statements that 'intellectual copyright' is reserved do not lend confidence,
I am not aware of any such concept in US or international copyright law.
Copyright protects the embodiment of an idea, never the idea itself. Even
the EU doctrine of moral right of the author does not cover this.


                Phill


-----Original Message-----
From: Esa Laitinen [mailto:esa(_at_)laitinen(_dot_)org]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:14 AM
To: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [Asrg] 'GIEIS' - The Fourth Response


On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:28:51AM +0000, Mark McCarron wrote:
It is worth addressing.  A port scan only tests for basic 
security and 
access to a system.  It is hardly a physical assault, also, 
coming from a 
trusted domain everyone would be quite aware it was not a 
breach attempt on 
their systems.  Since these scans would be sent clear text 
across the web 
anyone with a little knowledge could analyse them.  If 
there was anything 
suspisious it would be repoted instantly all over the world.

Nevertheless port scanning is illegal in some parts of the 
world, with 
convictions to back the claim (decision of Finnish Supreme 
Court, case 
number KKO:2003:36).

Welcome to Finland after you've started your large scale scanning ;-)

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