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RE: RE: RE: [Asrg] 2. Problem Characterization - Defining spam wi thin consent paradigm

2003-07-03 10:50:34

Ok, guys. I'm sure that you both agree that the usefulness of this thread
has been exhausted. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Thomson [mailto:tthomson(_at_)neosinteractive(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:37 PM
To: Jon Kyme
Cc: ASRG
Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Asrg] 2. Problem Characterization - 
Defining spam within consent paradigm


"What are you on" is not a useful question to post on this list.

I'll risk Paul's wrath and reply in the same unhelpful vein 
as you have
adopted:-

I guess if you don't understand that there is a very clear 
distinction between wanting something and consenting to it we 
will all do better to ignore anything you say about the 
consent model for spam/spam control/spam elimination, because 
you are clearly on something that has reduced your ability to 
distinguish basic semantic concepts to the point where you 
can't usefully communicate.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Kyme [mailto:jrk(_at_)merseymail(_dot_)com]
Sent: 03 July 2003 15:17
To: Tom Thomson
Cc: ASRG
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Asrg] 2. Problem Characterization - 
Defining spam within consent paradigm


One trouble here is that one moment you write "does not 
want" and at >
another > you write "does not consent to" just as if they 
meant the same thing. > They > do not mean the same thing. >  
I consent to receiving bills from the people who supply my 
electricty, > but I > don't want to receive those bills - I'd 
much rather have the electricity > free.  I don't think those 
bills are spam - in fact I believe that any > definition of 
spam that includes those bills is just plain wrong. So spam  
What are you on? Ar you talking about your electricity or 
your electricity bills?  Of course you "want" (need or 
desire) your electricity bills, given that your electricity 
*isn't* free. Otherwise the first thing you'd know is that 
you get a court summons for non-payment. You "consent" (express a
willingness) to receive them when you sign up with your 
supplier, because you need them.  What you "want" is a dictionary.



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