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Re: [Asrg] 6. Proposals - AMTP (rev 01)

2003-09-28 20:59:30
At 10:02 PM 9/28/2003, Phil Miller wrote:
Major nitpick: "roll" is a kind of bread; you mean "role".

Sheeesh! It's also a popular delivery mechanism for toilet paper.

That's embarrassing. The first fix is in place for -02. Thanks.

Now, for my real beef: the DNS requirements break the use of 'residential' ISP lines for hosting AMTP servers.

This needs to go in the FAQ. It's by far the most common objection.

I too would rather not have to break that functionality, but the requirement that the certificate match the PTR RR seems to me valuable, and I can see ways to replace the functionality of a home-based mail server.

Allow me to explain:

Without the PTR requirement, a blackhat could get a certificate and upload it to zillions of compromised home-based PCs along with a small AMTP daemon, much like they do today with SMTP. After a while, the major AMTP servers would discover the certificate signature and block it, but a lot of spam would go out in the mean time.

With the PTR requirement, all those home-based PCs become unusable as distribution points. But now a whitehat needs a fixed IP address and/or a moderately clueful provider to run an AMTP server.

(An exceptionally clueful provider could create low-ttl dynamic rDNS for selected parts of their IN-ADDR.ARPA zone, but that seems like it's asking a lot from an industry that can barely manage a SWIP.)

There are a few ways around this, but I fancy this one: Find a few friends and set up a small co-op mail server. You can get a decent low-traffic dedicated *nix server for about $99/month, or a colo for about $199. With five or ten folks in a co-op, that's not a very big pill to swallow.

Another possibility is that someone will set up a business that will relay mail for people like you using the "private network" provision in AMTP. A side-benefit for this approach is that you don't need to get your own certificate. I forsee this as a moderately popular niche market for someone who is interested. (Actually, I think some of these exist now with alternate-port SMTP for those who have outgoing port 25 blocked.)

I know it's a PIA, and I would love to find a way around it, but also I see it as a reasonable price to pay if it makes the rest of the package work.

--Bill


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