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[Asrg] 6. Proposals - Reputation systems - Project Lumos (was Re: [Asrg] NAI/ESPC Project Lumos whitepaper & request for comment)

2003-09-29 12:05:39
I took a look at their white paper and there are a few points I would like to make. One of the authors of the white paper is on the mailing list.

FIRST of all, the whitepaper makes a wide use of "X-" headers which are not meant to be used in standards. Since "Project Lumos" is not a standard its a not a problem, but I am still not comfortable with it.

SECOND, the entire notion of reputation systems of which this proposal is part of, fits within the consent framework within the notion of "source tracking components". Reputation and certification systems such as this one are used to track and certify the source of the message. This proposal can fit very well within the framework but not to the exclusion of all other proposals.

THIRD, this proposal assumes the use of this service ONLY and a deployment of 18-24 months. After deployment:

"By the end of Phase 4, email sent from unknown, unregistered Senders and/or ESPs will be unlikely to get through to recipients' inboxes or will be rate limited disallowing any high-volume delivery without secure identity."

The technical considerations document (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-spam-techconsider-02.txt) states:

"    Remember that the Internet comprises a massive number
     of independent administrations, each with their own
     politics and funding. What is important and feasible to
     one might be neither to another. If the latter
     administration is in the handling path for a message,
     then it will not have implemented the necessary control
     mechanism. Worse, it well might not be possible to
     change this.  For example a proposal that requires a
     brand new mail service is not likely to gain much
     traction.
"

Unfortunatly I do not see how this proposal can hope to achieve deployment within 18-24 months. What is more realistic is reformulating this proposal within the consent framework as one of the many sources of information available to email administrators. Addressing both the requirements and technical considerations documents would prove useful as well.

Yakov

Liudvikas Bukys wrote:
Excerpted from the press release
http://www.networkadvertising.org/espc/092903lumos.asp

        Details of Project Lumos technical architecture were unveiled today in
        a white paper entitled "Project Lumos: A Solutions Blueprint for
        Solving the Spam Problem by Establishing Volume Email Sender
        Accountability." The white paper illustrates how the registry can
        easily be implemented in conjunction with current spam fighting
        technology. The white paper also provides a blueprint for easy
        implementation of Project Lumos by ISPs. Project Lumos will allow ISPs,
        without significant infrastructure changes, to quickly and
        inexpensively reject mail connections from spammers without needing to
        accept, store and analyze the fraudulent mail. This should dramatically
        reduce the amount of resources required to handle spam.

        ESPC is encouraging reviews, recommendations, and comments from the
        industry. For information and to download the white paper, visit
        www.networkadvertising.org/espc/project_lumos.asp.

        About NAI's Email Service Provider Coalition:  The Email Service
        Provider Coalition (ESPC) was formed in November 2002 by the Network
        Advertising Initiative (NAI) to fight spam while protecting the
        delivery of legitimate email. The ESPC is comprised of 37 members
        including aQuantive, Blue Dolphin, Digital Impact, DoubleClick,
        Experian, IMN, and Roving Software. The ESPC members have recognized
        the need for strong spam solutions that ensure the delivery of
        legitimate email. To this end, the ESPC has created several crucial
        sub-committees, including legislative and technical committees, which
        have been very active in the war against spam. Our flagship initiative,
        Project Lumos, is an industry proposal for a registry-based solution to
        the spam problem.

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