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RE: [ASRG] 2b. Public Trace Data

2003-10-06 12:40:03
At 6/10/2003 16:00 Monday, you wrote:
There were some discussions about creating a reviewer process for cleaning
the data further.

I do question the 15% value. Mainly because I question the definition of
spam that you used. For example, joke forward and virus mail seem to qualify
as unwanted email. Also depending on the mailing lists that you are speaking
of, they could qualify as unwanted email.

This brings us probably back to "The Question": what is spam, or what is not spam. While i believe that joke forwards may be "unwanted" mail, they are not spam (UCE, UBE). People should be able to cope with that on a person to person level.

Mailing lists, as found on the spamarchive, are mostly (I guess) lists to which the people have subscribed, time ago, but do not want anymore. Instead of unsubscribing (which IS painful for some lists, I know) they add those lists, senders, etc, to their blacklists, or manually forward as spam.

Virus mail is definitely unwanted, but also does not classify as spam (UCE), maybe as UBE - not sure about that.

The two approaches that we discussed were a) re-run the messages through
anti-spam tools to confirm they are spam and b) set up an interface so that
volunteers can review and vote on messages. With a decent number of
volunteers, one could get through a fair amount of messages daily. We did an
initial poll for volunteers early on and there were some individuals that
expressed interest. We need someone to create the interface that allows
review.

I think that b) is not reasonable. It might work for a short time until the volunteers get bored. Which leaves us with a).

Cheers
Andreas



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