Markus
----- Original Message -----
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 07:50:58PM -0500, Hector Santos wrote:
Yo Markus, what's up this? I sent my reply to the list and direct to
you.
The bounce can back immediately from you:
Our mailserver is fast.
Good try, but this is nonsense. (How do you like those apples? <g>)
It was our SERVER who attempted to to deliver to your
maex-lists-spam-ietf-asrg(_at_)Space(_dot_)Net
at space.net. Your refusal 553 response code caused our server to send an
immediate response to back to me. If you had issued an 45x code, our
server would of put it into a queue.
I'd recommend you get better glasses then.
My eMail-adress ends in @space.net and the information for blocked
hosts is at http://www.SPACE.NET/abuse/rbl/ because we run our own
DNSDBL. You notice the identical domain names in the URL and the email
address, do you?
Huh? Is this language thing?
Your host was automatically blocked because it tried to relay bounces
through our server for a domain alqwejad.com that is neither delegated
to that server nor does it exist at all:
Dec 10 01:12:50 ntbbs.winserver.com:208.247.131.9
rejected: <> to <wcsap-openrelay-test-123sxa23(_at_)alqwejad(_dot_)com>
relaying denied
Dec 10 01:21:13 ntbbs.winserver.com:208.247.131.9
rejected: <> to <wcsap-openrelay-test-123sxa23(_at_)alqwejad(_dot_)com>
relaying denied
That is our WCSAP OPEN RELAY test on your system to see if YOU were a
spammer because YOU were trying to send mail to US!!! We were not sending
mail to you!
We don't like this, so hosts behaving that way get blocked.
I'm afraid you are black listing for all the wrong reasons. You need to get
your facts STRAIGHT by understanding your system first!
Btw, you are rejecting mails from me also, not only from the others:
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at moebius2.Space.Net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<winserver(_dot_)support(_at_)winserver(_dot_)com>:
Connected to 208.247.131.9 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 552 Return Path not verifiable!
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well, lets see.
E:\logs\split>grep -li "space.net" wcsap*.log
File wcsap20031209.log:
The first contact was on the 9th which validated a message you were sending
to me. It worked fine.
Your stupid system rejected the relay test as it should. Again, YOU WERE
SENDING A MESSAGE TO US. We were NOT sending to you!
20031209 19:13 000122cf -------------------------------------
20031209 19:13 000122cf version: 1.39 / 1.35
20031209 19:13 000122cf cmd : MAIL FROM
20031209 19:13 000122cf method : WCSAP
20031209 19:13 000122cf uid : 0
20031209 19:13 000122cf ip : 195.30.1.100
20031209 19:13 000122cf cdn : moebius2.space.net
20031209 19:13 000122cf hdn :
20031209 19:13 000122cf rbl : 0
20031209 19:13 000122cf relay : 0
20031209 19:13 000122cf from : <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031209 19:13 000122cf trying mx: moebius.space.net ip: 195.30.1.25
20031209 19:13 000122cf # connecting to 195.30.1.25
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 220 moebius.space.net ESMTP
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: NOOP WCSAP v1.39 Wildcat! Sender Authentication
Protocol http://www.santronics.com
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 250 ok
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: HELO mail.winserver.com
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 250 moebius.space.net
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: MAIL FROM: <>
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 250 ok
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: RCPT TO: <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 250 ok
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: RCPT TO:
<wcsap-openrelay-test-123sxa23(_at_)alqwejad(_dot_)com>
20031209 19:13 000122cf S: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
20031209 19:13 000122cf C: QUIT
20031209 19:13 000122cf result : 250
20031209 19:13 000122cf wcsap finish
20031209 19:21 000122e8 -------------------------------------
20031209 19:21 000122e8 version: 1.39 / 1.35
20031209 19:21 000122e8 cmd : MAIL FROM
20031209 19:21 000122e8 method : WCSAP
20031209 19:21 000122e8 uid : 0
20031209 19:21 000122e8 ip : 195.30.1.100
20031209 19:21 000122e8 cdn : moebius2.space.net
20031209 19:21 000122e8 hdn :
20031209 19:21 000122e8 rbl : 0
20031209 19:21 000122e8 relay : 0
20031209 19:21 000122e8 from : <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031209 19:21 000122e8 trying mx: moebius.space.net ip: 195.30.1.25
20031209 19:21 000122e8 # connecting to 195.30.1.25
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 220 moebius.space.net ESMTP
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: NOOP WCSAP v1.39 Wildcat! Sender Authentication
Protocol http://www.santronics.com
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 250 ok
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: HELO mail.winserver.com
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 250 moebius.space.net
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: MAIL FROM: <>
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 250 ok
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: RCPT TO: <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 250 ok
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: RCPT TO:
<wcsap-openrelay-test-123sxa23(_at_)alqwejad(_dot_)com>
20031209 19:21 000122e8 S: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
20031209 19:21 000122e8 C: QUIT
20031209 19:21 000122e8 result : 250
20031209 19:21 000122e8 wcsap finish
20031209 19:22 000122e9 -------------------------------------
Two contacts. The next time was the 18th (today)
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 -------------------------------------
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 version: 1.42 / 1.36
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 cmd : MAIL FROM
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 method : WCSAP
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 uid : 0
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 ip : 195.30.1.100
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 cdn : moebius2.space.net
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 hdn :
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 rbl : 0
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 relay : 0
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 from : <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 filter : test
20031218 18:53:06 0001ac47 result : 0
20031218 18:53:12 0001ac47 total mx records: 1
20031218 18:53:12 0001ac47 trying mx: moebius.space.net ip: 195.30.1.25
20031218 18:53:12 0001ac47 # connecting to 195.30.1.25
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 S: 220 rblsmtpd.local
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 C: NOOP WCSAP v1.42 Wildcat! Sender
Authentication Protocol http://www.santronics.com
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 S: 250 rblsmtpd.local
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 C: HELO mail.winserver.com
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 S: 250 rblsmtpd.local
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 C: MAIL FROM: <>
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 S: 250 rblsmtpd.local
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 C: RCPT TO: <maex(_at_)space(_dot_)net>
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 S: 553 Blocked (ip=208.247.131.9; date=20031211)
Your mailserver is sending spam/UCE, probably an open relay. See
http://www.space.net/abuse/rbl/
20031218 18:53:13 0001ac47 C: QUIT
20031218 18:53:14 0001ac47 result : 553
20031218 18:53:14 0001ac47 SMTP response code: 552
20031218 18:53:14 0001ac47 wcsap finish
20031218 18:53:45 0001ac49 -------------------------------------
where you blocked it, hence your system will bounce your mail to NO-WHERE
because it will never GET here!
Your software is so stupid, you have us BLOCKED, yet you tried to send
mail to us??!! Huh? Doesn't make sense does it? Maybe your RBL should be
BOTH WAYS?
Simply put, YOUR mail that you are trying to send to US, NOT us to YOU,
will never get here!
Your software is fsck'ed up beyond recognition it seems.
Get your facts straight about who's software is f$%ked up. Your server is
stupid! Its so dumb it probably has EVERYONE in europe blacklisted, and
yet, what is SO funny, it is YOUR ATTEMPT to send mail that is causing it!
Not ME! I am not sending mail to you, you paper hat!
And your lame
arguments about "new code" are even lamer in the light of your 20 years
of experience in mailserver programming. You should have already learnt
in at most 20 days not to test broken code in production environments.
Oh, I've put out production code in 1 hour without FAIL!! Have you? Its
called experience buddy!
There is nothing wrong with the code. Whatt's going is your idiotic
BLACKLISTER. Why are you trying to send mail to me in the first place if we
are blacklisted? Talk about what comes first, the chicken or the egg?
Hey, no problem here. You are just lucky you across the pond!
-- Hector
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