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[Asrg] 6. Proposals - Pull vs. Push - New subgroup?

2004-03-30 16:31:09
Based on our internal discussions, review of the list discussion, and comments from other people, the chairs have come to a conclusion that at this time a "pull" group would not be created.

There are two arguments that were put forth in the list discussion. One contingent was arguing that providing "pull" channels for marketers, can help mitigate spam if most legit marketers switch over to "pull" leaving only spammers in the email realm. However, it seems to us that until "pull" standards are improved and there is better integration with email, that will not happen. The second contingent was arguing for overhauling the email infrastructure to do pull instead of push (this would include IM2000 proposal for example).

Both of these would require either changes in pull standards such as RSS, better integration between "pull" and email standards, or changes to existing email standards. All of these have very strenuous connection to the mission of the ASRG. Therefore, it seems to us that while there might exist significant reasons and motivations for these discussions, the ASRG would not be an appropriate forum for such subgroup. This work would be a more appropriate discussion for either the RSS folks, IRTF in general, ietf-smtp or ietf-822, or some other group.

Since these ideas are viable, I would suggest that interested parties organize themselves into their own group. If you wish want to pursue this topic as a new IRTF group than I will be happy to forward your request to the IRTF chair and provide background information. I will also be happy to provide background information if you want to take this to a different group.

Sincerely,
Yakov Shafranovich
Co-Chair, ASRG
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SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. / research <at> solidmatrix.com
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" (Lord Acton)
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