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Re: FW: [Asrg] 0. General

2004-03-30 16:44:15
At 3:22 PM -0400 2003/10/22, denny  wrote:

 Well in part I will say that I have never sent an "Anon" email and
 I would like to know just how "Anon" it is *unless* you have some kind
 of "Man-in-the-middle" who changes the email headers to hide the sender.

Okay, so for all the pieces of spam you have ever received, tell me precisely who sent each and every one of them. Hell, just tell me who sent a random 1% sampling.

 UA.o --> [ANON_SMTP_MANGLER] ---> DEST.MTA
 where [ANON_SMTP_MANGLER] is a "Black box" to the reciver end but
 has an address and can be found, may be more than one server, may
 use more than one IP / server to do it's work.

Penet.fi used to be thought of as a secure anonymous re-mailer, until recently it was discovered that they had been back-doored by the government. So long as there are a countable number of anonymous remailers that you are dependant on to provide the only anonymizing services that exist, they can all be compromised.

 so don't the senders of this email need to masq the content with say
 PGP at the start??

They may do that, but PGP allows you to sign first, and encrypt afterwards. That means that the signer is not known, although you can tell what keys the message was encrypted for. It also allows you to send encrypted messages that are not signed. But if the sender can't send the encrypted message anonymously, then all that built-in privacy is blown.

--
Brad Knowles, <brad(_dot_)knowles(_at_)skynet(_dot_)be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+
!w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++)
tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)

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