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Re: [Asrg] draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl-02.txt

2005-12-07 11:01:13

On Dec 7, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:


Behalf Of Douglas Otis

Black-holing is exactly how the BGP version of the list works. All traffic is "black-holed" for that IP address. The term blacklist also has other legal meanings that should be avoided if possible.

IANAL but I have little respect for legal strategies that disrespect the intelligence of the court.

A black-hole list is clearly maintained for the same purposes as a blacklist. You do not avoid legal liability by changing the name.

The terms 'black-hole' or 'block-list' are arguably indicative of the intended use of the list. If anything they make the legal situation worse.

This is not about just another protocol, but represents an activity that offers opinions that may result in litigation. Avoiding the entrenched terminology "blacklist" has been helpful in our experience, and the advice obtained for moving forward. The intent of most lists is to offer an opinion that traffic should be _blocked_ or _black-holed_ based upon a network identifier. This intent would not be related to the legally encumbered "blacklist" as found in many Federal and state laws pertaining to individuals. Clarifying this detail may prove an otherwise needless legal expense, well before being heard in court. It is not a matter of court intelligence, but rather strategies used by bad-actors. The intelligent strategy would avoid loaded terminology that _will_ be used to invoke additional regulations.

-Doug


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