Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Should DKIM drop SSP?
2005-10-27 16:49:39
Doug,
My, my, but aren't we having fun consuming list bandwidth?
SSP, as it is currently defined, will cause a reduction in the integrity
of email delivery which, before this strategy, managed in spite of
inordinate abuse. This policy placed exclusively on the From header
will eventually coerce domain owners into making the only protective
assertion available that will _prevent_ the use of most services and the
loss of legitimate messages.
Threads like this one usually are based on a firm assertion of an inevitable
future, coupled with an insistence on the immediate need for particular
changes to cure things. The usual problem with these threads -- besides how
much they distract from the topic at hand, such as getting the working group
chartered -- is their presumption about the certainties of human and group
behavior.
If I am understanding the concern, this time, it is that the constraints in
SSP will have a Procrustean effect, with all mail sent by everyone, trying
to be to be forced into its limited confines.
The flaw, of course, is that the current SSP is intended for limited use,
not universal use. Folks should re-read Mark Delaney's note about the role
of this *first* effort at an SSP. There is much to debate legitimately
about the current SSP, but the proffered doomsday scenario does not seem to
qualify.
In any event, Doug, before you try to sell solutions, please limit yourself
only about the problem you see. Garner support that a) your assessment is
valid, and b) it must be solved in the near term.
Only when you have that support will it make sense to discuss possible
solutions.
Conflating the process of explaining the problem and trying to sell a
solution is just plain confusing, at least for me.
d/
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