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Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: DKIM and mailing lists

2006-01-18 11:39:02

On Jan 18, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Frank Ellermann wrote:

Douglas Otis wrote:

The From header may then need to have multiple addresses introduced, where the first email-address would be that of the mailing-list.

NAK.

This consideration depends upon:

1) When replay abuse becomes a serious problem, the defensive reaction of obfuscating signatures by the MDA or mediator also means not altering the message is not a solution.

2) When an SSP policy associated with the From email-address increases the rating of a message, publishing closed polices may become a necessary defense.

Modifying the message is already a common practice by list-servers and resigning a modified message may not overcome restrictions imposed by a From email-address policy.

In the dkim-options draft, rather than restricting an email-address, the goal was to identify unique sources and highlight recognized correspondents. This included the ability to assert a signing role such as mediator, as in the case of a list-server. Adding a signing role avoids difficulties in classifying the nature of the source and may squelch conflict notifications.


It may also require that the From email-address be moved entirely into the body of the message and replaced with the email-address of the mailing-list.

NAK.

This would be a follow-on of the closed policy issue when dealing with message changes. There has been a suggestion that all From email-address be checked against a policy to determine the most restrictive policy. This would then mean adding multiple From email- addresses would not be a solution for avoiding policy restrictions.

If a message sent to a list-server opted to not include the Subject header as a means to increase compatibility, then instantly these messages become a way to send subject line spam. When messages use a body-length to increase compatibility with list-servers, then again instantly these messages become a way to send spam. Of course, any abusive message replay could hurt the reputation of the individual sending to the list. A defensive posture in reaction to this problem may be to exclude signatures when sending to a list-server or ask the list-server to remove or obfuscate incoming signatures. Resigning and obfuscation of incoming signatures would preserve valuable information and dramatically reduce potential sources for message replay abuse.

-Doug


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