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Re: [ietf-dkim] discardable means discardable

2008-02-23 23:10:20
John Levine wrote:
The discarding of email is one of the key causes of some significant
loss of trust in email as a reliable means of communication.

Since I invented the term "discardable" perhaps I should explain why I
mean discardable when I say discardable.


Oh brother.

What else could it mean that hasn't been applied to the term discardable 
  in the history of mail? both physical and electronically? and more 
specific in the trade, the "Discarding of Junk Mail?"

Unless you wanted to bounce mail in a POST SMTP DKIM process, thats all 
you could do in a POST SMTP system is discard it, throw it away.

To REJECT it in SMTP terms, most experts will view that as a 
notification signal as it applied in practice, either dynamically at the 
SMTP level or with a accept/bound action.

Anything short of that is discarding the mail. You were not the first to 
invent the term NOR the idea of "Discardable" mail.

But what I am more curious with is this statement:

C) If a heavily phished domain asks you to throw away the
apparent forgeries, do the world a favor and take their advice.

ASK?  World a favor?  I seem to recall using that phrase quite often in 
my many PRO SSP discussions.

But it was appearing very clearlu that you, Wietse and others were 
clearly against such "advice" and instructions from the domains.

No, there has to be something else that is nudging the receiver to heed 
the advice from the domain. DAC Perhaps?

Also is there a qualification for asking a receiver to "discard" mail? 
Can only Heavily phished domain ask?  Can it be lightly phished? Is 
there a certain threshold of "phished mail?  Or does DISCARDABLE also 
mean "No sorry. You are not suffering enough to have the right to ask me 
to discard mail." ???


-- 
Sincerely

Hector Santos, CTO
http://www.santronics.com
http://santronics.blogspot.com

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